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To: greggy; Jerry_M
Don't take this wrong, but it does matter when he is coming.

I don't mean to imply that it does not matter. That was not the intent. Again, my point is, keep living for the Lord, and praising Him while there is still time left. All He said, was to watch, and be ready. I just don't take date setters seriously, like I never took that family Radio guy seriously, when He said Jesus would return in 1994. Jerry did you hear about that? It was 1993, and I was driving home from Travis AFB, when I heard him say it over Family Radio. I almost drove my car into the ditch when I heard it. When I got home, I called them on the phone and told them I would no longer contribute to Family Radio, for that reason.

54 posted on 10/17/2001 3:44:05 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: Mark17
When I got home, I called them on the phone and told them I would no longer contribute to Family Radio, for that reason.

I am with you there. But let's not get in the other ditch of the road and say we will all be surprised, because that defies the bible.

1 Thes 5:1-2: Now, brothers, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night...

1Thes 5:4: But you brothers are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief.

You see, the church will not be surprised because they will not be in darkness. Darkness is made void by light, and the light will be from God. He will tell us and we will not be surprised by it. I assure you.

The church will be made glorious and you will see christians with faces shining with the Glory of God before He returns. He will return for a glorious church. People down play that fact because they simply cannot imagine transfiguring like Jesus did, yet our bodies are the temple of God's Holy Spirit. Imagine that. We hold the Holy Spirit of the one and only true God of the universe within out mortal bodies, and yet we cannot imagine shining with the Glory of God?! What's the matter with this picture?

Also, when we get our new bodies we will remain down here on earth for a while. We will walk around with our immortal bodies before we go up to be with Jesus in the clouds. How do I know? Because Paul says, "after that [after the dead are caught up in the clouds to be with Jesus], we who are still alive will be caught up with them forever."

I heard one preacher say that we would follow the dead by a nanosecond. But if that were true, it would appear to Paul that we are caught up with the dead, not "after" the dead.

When that really begins to sink in, then you will see the next part of that passage in 1 Cor 15:53-54:

For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.
When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: Death, has been swallowed up in victory.


Death has not yet been swallowed up in victory, but it will in your life time.
70 posted on 10/17/2001 4:41:30 PM PDT by greggy
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