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To: Arthur McGowan
I gave you a long form of my response to you.

I consider Mary to be my mother -- Jesus gave her to me on the cross ("Woman this is your son, and son this is your mother"). Anyone who is a member of her Son's church is one of her children, who she can defend -- not because she is divine, but the favor she has with God the Father, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus (all three persons of the Trinity). Show me a person in the Bible who an angel appears to and says "Hail to you, you are full of grace". And then the response of Mary that though she is the "Handmaid of the Lord", that "God has done great things for me".

God gives her angels and favors because of her position in heaven. Remember, the mother of the sons of Thunder, James and John, asked Jesus that they be allowed to sit at the right and left of Jesus in Heaven. Jesus responded that He does not have authority to say who will sit at His right or left hand -- only the Father can say that.

This clearly implies THAT THERE ARE POWERFUL POSITIONS in heaven. And by other scripture, it can be proven that Mary is very powerful not only when she was of this world but was to be very powerful in heaven.

That does not make her divine, but makes a person of heaven who the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit may grant favors for those on earth.

She is my mother as much as my other mother.

26 posted on 10/16/2001 11:06:54 PM PDT by topher
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To: topher
Obviously, irony is lost on some people.
51 posted on 10/17/2001 7:10:10 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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