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To: Khepera
i assume that you have no problem with Charlie Manson owning a gun as soon as he gets out of the slammer.
8 posted on 10/16/2001 2:47:57 PM PDT by John Hines
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To: John Hines
i assume that you have no problem with Charlie Manson owning a gun as soon as he gets out of the slammer.

If he can't be trusted with a gun, he shouldn't be out of the slammer.

Were he out of said slammer, would he lose his right to speak, worship, etc?

13 posted on 10/16/2001 2:58:37 PM PDT by DuncanWaring
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To: John Hines
i assume that you have no problem with Charlie Manson owning a gun as soon as he gets out of the slammer.

I have problems with Charlie Manson still being in the slammer.
He should have been converted to wormfood decades ago.

17 posted on 10/16/2001 3:07:51 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: John Hines
Exactly how do you make this amazing intellectual leap?
18 posted on 10/16/2001 3:09:51 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: John Hines
i assume that you have no problem with Charlie Manson owning a gun as soon as he gets out of the slammer.

Not at all. The Supreme Court has already ruled that he doesn't have to register his gun since that would infringe upon his right not to incriminate himself. (Not that Charles Manson is going to get out anytime soon).

So, please tell me how many felons have been deterred by gun laws from obtaining a firearm.

21 posted on 10/16/2001 3:13:21 PM PDT by Demidog
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To: John Hines
i assume that you have no problem with Charlie Manson owning a gun as soon as he gets out of the slammer.

I assume that you have a problem providing your own security in a free state?

30 posted on 10/16/2001 3:41:37 PM PDT by copycat
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To: John Hines
i assume that you have no problem with Charlie Manson owning a gun as soon as he gets out of the slammer.

Typical liberal BS. The odds on Manson ever getting out are somewhere between zero and nothing. Even if the Parole Board was stupid enough to release him, in a free country where everyone is armed, his odds of surviving his first attempt at crime are only slightly better.

32 posted on 10/16/2001 3:43:23 PM PDT by athiestwithagun
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To: John Hines
Various rights of former criminals are restricted. That is part of getting tried and convicted. Lesson: Don't get tried and convicted.

You don't find many pro-gun people arguing for the rights of convicted criminals. Just as you don't find many of the anti-gun crowd arguing against any right to self defense. But both groups have their tin-foil fringe, don't they?

37 posted on 10/16/2001 4:00:18 PM PDT by Abn1508
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To: John Hines
i assume that you have no problem with Charlie Manson owning a gun as soon as he gets out of the slammer.

I choose not to deal with hypotheticals nor improbables. It is unlikely your pal will not get out of the slammer in my lifetime nor yours. But if he did, he is a convicted felon and could not legally obtain a firearm. Emerson, on the other hand, is not a convicted felon.

Besides, if your friend Chuck should somehow get out, I don't think he would be too worried about obtaining a firearm "legally" anyway. He would simply do what all other repeat offenders do illegally........

And if Manson should get out of prison, you would support my disarmament while at the same time allowing him to move in next door to me?

Of course you would as long as you were on the other side of the country rather than across the street.......

45 posted on 10/16/2001 5:07:08 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: John Hines
Yeah John having a 'law' to forbid Manson from getting a gun "when he get's out" would really stop him! Manson is very afraid of the law..when he murdered there was a 'law'..someone dig up Sharon Tate and company and tell them they can't be dead because there was a 'law'. All defense is ultimately self-defense.
60 posted on 10/16/2001 9:17:03 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: John Hines
i assume that you have no problem with Charlie Manson owning a gun as soon as he gets out of the slammer.

Are we to assume that you believe that under the current gun laws if Charlie Manson were to get out he would be unable to get a gun if he wanted one?

61 posted on 10/16/2001 9:22:43 PM PDT by ICU812
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