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To: DuncanWaring
Were he out of said slammer, would he lose his right to speak, worship, etc?

No. But he would certainly lose his right to carry a gun. Absolutely. Completely. It is not even a close question except to idiots.

52 posted on 10/16/2001 5:49:54 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Kevin Curry
It is not even a close question except to idiots

I guess then most states were, until quite recently, governed by idiots. It's only since the gun control act of '68 that federal law prohibits convicted felons from keeping arms, and some states still do not, at least not all guns under all conditions. I know Texas law provided for even released felons to have arms in their homes for self defense. Of course only an idiot would not recognize the fact that a criminal, convicted or not, that wants to have a gun, knife or other weapon, will get one, regardless of any law to the contrary. All your position does is lend support for "instant" registration schemes such as that put in during the reign of the sinkmeister, it does not deprive any evil doers of weapons. Even keeping them in the slammer doesn't always manage that.

54 posted on 10/16/2001 6:08:08 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Kevin Curry
No. But he would certainly lose his right to carry a gun. Absolutely. Completely.

But does he lose ANY of the other rights listed in the Bill Of Rights? Answer: No. He may lose proceedural rights (voting) or other gov't-granted rights, but he loses NONE of his natural God-given rights...except, as you say, his 2nd Amdendment rights. What in the Constitution permits the loss of that right but not of the other 9?

55 posted on 10/16/2001 7:21:03 PM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Kevin Curry
I stand by my original position. If he can't be trusted to carry a gun, he shouldn't be out of the slammer.

Were he, however, to be out of the slammer, would he have a right to carry a knife? A baseball bat? A tire iron? A screwdriver?

56 posted on 10/16/2001 8:58:46 PM PDT by DuncanWaring
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To: Kevin Curry
No. But he would certainly lose his right to carry a gun. Absolutely. Completely. It is not even a close question except to idiots.

Your wording is intemperate and inaccurate. Many people question the automatic removal of Second Amendment rights as a result of a felony conviction.

And they are not all idiots, either.

57 posted on 10/16/2001 9:03:14 PM PDT by BenR2
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