[Dan from Michigan]

I'd watch the CCW case in Ohio. That may be winnable because of this. IF that's the case, we MIGHT just get that Vermont carry here through the courts(Depending on state/federal matters, which is the tricky part). IMO, There's only one possible way to do it in the next 8 years, and that's through the courts. Engler, nor anyone else would sign it.

Maybe I should go for a law degree.

[Don Joe]

"I'd watch the CCW case in Ohio. That may be winnable because of this. IF that's the case, we MIGHT just get that Vermont carry here through the courts"

Ohio is interesting, because it's -- for a long time -- had a CCW law that I believe is unique in the country. In Ohio, anyone can CCW "Vermont style", if and only if they have a valid reason to fear for their health or safety.

I think the theory was that it would apply to people making bank deposits, etc. But so far as I'm aware, the law was seldom if ever enforced except in the breach, i.e., no one "skipped" on it, and anyone CCWing was busted for it -- no "reason" was good enough to satisfy those interpreting the laws.

[Henry F. Bowman]

Maybe I should go for a law degree.

Cheaper to hire one when you need one.

Or marry one, like I did!