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To: Born in a Rage; Barak
I went to the online A HREF="http://www.stg.brown.edu/webs/quran_browser/pqeasy.shtml">Quran Browser to test Born in a Rage's claim that there is no mention of peace or love in the Quran. Turns out not to be true. For example:

[al-Baqarah 2:177.41] It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces to the East and the West; but righteous is he who believeth in Allah and the Last Day and the angels and the Scripture and the prophets; and giveth wealth, for love of Him, to kinsfolk and to orphans and the needy and the wayfarer and to those who ask, and to set slaves free; and observeth proper worship and payeth the poor-due. And those who keep their treaty when they make one, and the patient in tribulation and adversity and time of stress. Such are they who are sincere. Such are the God-fearing.

The point is that for every selection of hateful quotes from the Quran, somebody else can make a selection of highly ethical and spiritual ones. Any book that could nurture a religion for 1300 years is bound to be complicated. The question is where the people who follow it locate its center of gravity. This man obviously sees the center of gravity of the Quran somewhere else than bin Laden does.

That's related to Barak's question about whether this man is an "Islamic Spong." Because I am a Christian, I believe that God will see to it that the Christian message as He intends it will always be around. But apart from divine intervention, a religion is basically what its followers say it is. If worldwide Islam could be persuaded to take passages like the one I cited as the central ones, then that is what Islam would be. Sufi Muslims read the Quran very differently from Wahhabis, but it has nothing to do with being "liberal." They just locate the center in a different place.

81 posted on 10/16/2001 7:31:30 PM PDT by Southern Federalist
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To: Southern Federalist
This reference is for the love of Allah. Perhaps you can find and cite a reference in the Quran to loving your enemy as yourself? If not I miss your point and we learn something about the true nature of this cult of the moon god.
94 posted on 10/17/2001 7:36:23 AM PDT by Les_Miserables
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