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A Memo To American Muslims (This Man Says It All..Bravo)
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| 16 Oct 2001
| Dr. Muqtedar Khan
Posted on 10/16/2001 1:36:59 PM PDT by MoJo2001
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To: MoJo2001
Does anybody know whether the fellow who wrote this is the Billy Graham type of Muslim or the John Shelby Spong type of Muslim? I didn't see a lot of references to the Koran; might this perhaps mean that at its core, Islam is vicious and murderous, but that it can be to some extent modernized and socialized by liberal Islamic theologians to the point where fewer people get killed, as long as nobody really reads the Koran itself?
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posted on
10/16/2001 2:24:21 PM PDT
by
Barak
To: MoJo2001
While encouraging Muslims to struggle against injustice (Al Quran 4:135), Allah also imposes strict rules of engagement. He says in unequivocal terms that to kill an innocent being is like killing entire humanity (Al Quran 5:32). He also encourages Muslims to forgive Jews and Christians if they have committed injustices against us (Al Quran 2:109, 3:159, 5:85).I think these 'examples that the author provided are misleading....for one, how does the Quran define an "innocent"? The so-called "unbeleivers" in the Quran are not "innocent". As a matter of fact, there is a passage with says that the "unbelievers" are the "vilest of animals" and that Allah would have made them able to see and hear (the word of Allah) except that he didn't 'give' that 'gift' to them because they are evil.
From the Quran:
Surah III
151. For we will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve.
Surah IV
89. If they turn back, seize them and kill them wherever you find them.
Surah V
Do not take the Jews and Christians for friends, they are friends of each other....
Surah IX
5. So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush
To: MoJo2001
The point however is this our belief in Islam and commitment to Islamic values is not contingent on the moral conduct of the US or Israel. And as Muslims can we condone such inhuman and senseless waste of life in the name of Islam?Refreshing to say the least.
As far as this being a repost, so be it...I didn't catch it earlier, so how would I know about it?...I can't do a search on "Posts that nothingnew hasn't read", can I?
Thanks fer the post.
FMCDH
To: Barak
might this perhaps mean that at its core, Islam is vicious and murderousYep. I have been reading and thumbing through the Quran and there is no mention of love or peace anywhere in it.
To: Blueflag
See #6. I have a difficult time understanding how some people can claim "I did a search and didn't find anything" when I usually can.
FWIW, I HAVE posted duplicates before, when someone had posted an article using a DIFFERENT title (which is actually against the rules of FR etiquette).
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posted on
10/16/2001 2:30:51 PM PDT
by
Illbay
To: MoJo2001
I don't believe this guy is a Muslim. But I'll bump it anyway.
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posted on
10/16/2001 2:31:17 PM PDT
by
lds23
To: MoJo2001
bump
To: MoJo2001
Thank you for reposting this. I had missed it earlier. Posting a good article twice is not over-posting :)
To: MoJo2001
bump for later read
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posted on
10/16/2001 2:41:59 PM PDT
by
6ppc
To: caddie
Shut up now, and get the hell out of America. Care to follow your own advice? If not, then maybe you should go read the Constitution.
To: lds23
Indian Muslem.
Indias solution to their Muslem problem was to slash off a huge chunck of their country and invite all Muslems in the country to live there. They then called it Pakistan. Didn't bring India the peace Ghandi thought it would though. I heard this on the radio the other night. Can anyone confirm its veracity?
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posted on
10/16/2001 2:44:57 PM PDT
by
KDD
Comment #32 Removed by Moderator
To: Illbay
It was really just a joke. I have found most articles by search, but sometimes it misses. Enjoy FR
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posted on
10/16/2001 2:57:48 PM PDT
by
Blueflag
To: caddie
"It's too little, too late mullet, America hates you ...."
You out to be horsewhipped.
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posted on
10/16/2001 3:04:05 PM PDT
by
Theresa
To: caddie
Excuse me I mean to say You ought to be horsewhipped.
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posted on
10/16/2001 3:06:04 PM PDT
by
Theresa
To: caddie
Excuse me I meant to say You ought to be horsewhipped.
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posted on
10/16/2001 3:06:19 PM PDT
by
Theresa
To: MoJo2001
Well done ! Thanks for the post, Illbay notwithstanding.
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posted on
10/16/2001 3:16:45 PM PDT
by
jimt
To: caddie
It's too little, too late mullet, America hates you muslims and it will always be that way. Maybe if you had come out with this screed FOUR WEEKS ago it might have had some whiff of sincerity still attached to it. But, come on, you worthless towelhead. Sorry, but caddie does not speak for America. America has a problem with radical islamic fundamentalists , she does not hate all muslims. You give freepers a bad name
Comment #39 Removed by Moderator
To: Theresa
America hates you. Speak for yourself !! Obviously your not a Christian, and this country of " ours," America " was built on Judeo Chrisitan values. You are not the spokesman for America, Americans or Christians.
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