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Special Forces Gunship Enters Fighting
AP via Yahoo! News ^ | Tuesday October 16 7:40 AM ET | KATHY GANNON

Posted on 10/16/2001 6:32:25 AM PDT by Pericles

Tuesday October 16 7:40 AM ET

Special Forces Gunship Enters Fighting

By KATHY GANNON,

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) - A U.S. special-forces gunship went into action Tuesday, raking a Taliban stronghold in Afghanistan with heavy machine gun and cannon fire. U.S. jets returned to Kabul, blasting military sites north of the city.

First use of the low-flying, lumbering turboprop AC-130 over the Taliban headquarters of Kandahar followed the fiercest daylight raids of the offensive and marked a stepping-up of attacks on Taliban bases and leadership.

It also signaled U.S. confidence that more than a week of attacks by ship-launched cruise missiles and high-flying jets had greatly eased the threat from Taliban air defense.

Secretary of State Colin Powell, in neighboring Pakistan to shore up support for the U.S.-led campaign, said Afghanistan's Islamic regime was ``under enormous pressure'' but refused to say whether he thought it near collapse.

Tuesday's fresh waves of air strikes targeted the Taliban at multiple fronts - military bases and airports outside the capital of Kabul, Taliban leaders' southern base city of Kandahar and the key northern city of Mazar-e-Sharif.

In mid-afternoon, two jets dropped five bombs on military targets in the Kheir Khana section of northern Kabul and two more bombs around the airport, raising a huge cloud of black smoke.

Taliban Information Ministry official Abdul Himat said 13 civilians died in the pre-dawn assault at Kandahar. The Taliban also said two people were killed in Tuesday's attack on Mazar-e-Sharif. The claims could not be independently verified.

In Washington, a defense official confirmed the overnight attack was led by an AC-130, marking the first acknowledged use of special-forces aircraft in the offensive, which began on Oct. 7. The official spoke on condition of anonymity.

Previous raids had targeted anti-aircraft artillery sites and other military installations with the aim of making the skies safe for aircraft like the AC-130. The Taliban are believed to still hold an unknown number of shoulder-fired Stinger missiles capable of bringing down aircraft, however.

High-firepower AC-130s typically are used to support ground forces trained for small-unit operations. There was no word whether the gunship's deployment meant special forces had entered the battle on the ground.

Aiming to make the skies safe, U.S. forces have made particular targets out of airports in Taliban territory throughout the campaign. Attacks put the Jalalabad airport in eastern Afghanistan out of commission almost from the start.

Other strikes have pounded Taliban jets at Kabul and the sprawling airport complex at Kandahar, which holds at least 300 housing units of Osama bin Laden's followers.

The only other major airfields in Taliban territory, at Shindand in southwestern Afghanistan and in Herat, have also taken repeated strikes.

The United States launched the air campaign to root out bin Laden - the top suspect in the Sept. 11 terror attacks on the United States - and to punish Afghanistan's rulers, the Taliban Islamic militia, who harbor him.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, speaking at the Pentagon, suggested Monday that U.S. airstrikes could next start targeting Taliban front-line positions facing Afghan opposition fighters in the northeast.

``I suspect that in the period ahead that's not going to be a very safe place to be'' for Taliban fighters, Rumsfeld said. ``We hope to have improved targeting information in the period ahead.

Taking advantage of the massive assaults, opposition forces on the ground claimed Monday to have advanced within miles of their former stronghold of Mazar-e-Sharif.

In the Tajikistan capital Dushanbe, a spokesman for the opposition northern alliance said opposition troops were approaching Mazar-e-Sharif from the northeast and northwest and that some units were as close as 4 miles away.

The claim by Abdul Vadud, the military attache of the opposition-controlled Afghan Embassy in Dushanbe, could not be confirmed.

Mazar-e-Sharif is the largest city in northern Afghanistan and is dominated by ethnic minority Uzbeks. The fundamentalist Taliban, who are Sunni Muslims, captured the city in 1998 and have since ruled it with an iron hand.

Taking the city would enable the opposition to consolidate its grip on the small area it controls in the north, since the town controls routes running east to west and linking pockets of the northern alliance's strength.

Pakistan, which has agreed to lend logistical support for the campaign, has pressed for the U.S. and British offensive to avoid directly helping opposition troops. Pakistan fears the northern alliance, its longtime opponent, will seize power from the Taliban.

With Powell beside him, Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf told an Islamabad news conference Tuesday the military strikes should ``short and targeted.''

The U.S. secretary of state found himself struggling to calm tensions between Pakistan and India after new fighting in the disputed province of Kashmir.

The United States had been trying to head off just such a flare in hostilities between the longtime rivals, fearing they would district key ally Pakistan for the campaign in Afghanistan.

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EDITOR'S NOTE - Kathy Gannon contributed to this report from Islamabad, Pakistan.


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To: blam; ScreamingFist

Mmmmmm....A-10.....

81 posted on 10/16/2001 12:33:02 PM PDT by Frumanchu
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To: Alas
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe that these two pictures are photos of the 20mm "Vulcan" gatling gun. Notice the magazine on the first picture!



Cheers!

82 posted on 10/16/2001 12:41:32 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: thucydides
"Just now on Fox News, we were told the gunship "can fire 1800 rounds per minute." This is actually the rate of fire of one of the two 20mm Gatling gun cannons. It does not mention the 40mm Bofors, nor the 105mm cannon that can fire 6 - 10 high explosive shells per minute"

You picked that up too, LOL. Actually, the GE M61/A1 20mm Vulcan fires 6000 rounds per minute, as set up on the F-16. The F-16 will fire it's entire ammo load (510 rounds) in 5 seconds if the trigger is depressed and held. Having had the pleasure of knowing a couple 130 gunship air crew members, I can tell you that in the Vietnam era, they would be standing knee deep in shell casings at the end of a fire mission. Have a nice day, taliban clmers.

83 posted on 10/16/2001 12:55:28 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: Kalashnikov_68
"but I do believe that these two pictures are photos of the 20mm "Vulcan" gatling gun"

You are correct, this is the General Electric M61/A1 Vulcan cannon. The top photo also shows a 510 round ammo drum, although the ammo guide chute is not a configuration I'm familiar with.

84 posted on 10/16/2001 1:01:06 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: thucydides
Point-blank, direct-fire with a 105 howitzer....a very scary thing.
85 posted on 10/16/2001 1:02:32 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob
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To: Tennessee_Bob
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86 posted on 10/16/2001 1:07:37 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: blam
Thanks for those pics. #14 helps visualize Hell on earth.

If it wasn't already mentioned, the guns are automatically aimed (at a center point) as the aircraft flys a 360 degree circle.

87 posted on 10/16/2001 1:08:58 PM PDT by xorch
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To: Kalashnikov_68
After looking at your top photo in a little more detail, I belive that it is the nose mount configuration of the M61/A1 for the F-18. Also an easy way to tell the difference between the 20mm and 30mm Gatlin weapons, 20mm=6 barrels, 30mm=7 barrels. That and the 20mm looks like a pop gun compared to the 30mm, the 30mm is truly artillery.
88 posted on 10/16/2001 1:09:22 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: ScreamingFist
Pic of a AC-130 Spectre gunship hosing down some bad guys on a little vacation isle known as Grenada, October 1983. If you remember the video from the Grenada invasion, the buildings with all the neat little holes in them were from the AC-130s.

Pic of Puff, AC-47 gunship from Vietnam.

Pic of Puff's mini guns.

Crest of the 16th SOW, Hurlburt Field Fl., some of the brave men who fly the gunships.

Nose art on a AC-130U

Crest of the U.S. Air Force Special Operations Command.

16th SOW

AC-130 Gunship Info and pics

89 posted on 10/16/2001 1:23:55 PM PDT by spectr17
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To: Alas
More pics HERE
90 posted on 10/16/2001 1:27:16 PM PDT by TheRealLobo
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
The older model (AC-130H) had two 20mm Gatling guns firing (i think) 1500 rds per minute (each) slowed down from 4000/6000 rds per minute (when used)on fighters. The newer model AC-130U has a 25mm Gatling gun replacing the two 20's. (They both also have a 40mm Bofors and a 105 Howitzer).
91 posted on 10/16/2001 1:31:53 PM PDT by TheRealLobo
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To: blam
The "official" name for them is "Spectre". I've heard them called Spooky before too though. Either one is fairly descriptive. :)
92 posted on 10/16/2001 1:36:14 PM PDT by TheRealLobo
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To: Blueflag
I didn't realize that they had changed the designation on them. I did read that they put the 25mm in so they can do it from a higher altitude.
93 posted on 10/16/2001 1:37:56 PM PDT by TheRealLobo
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To: ScreamingFist
Actually, the GE M61/A1 20mm Vulcan fires 6000 rounds per minute... It was set up that way when used as a self-propelled air defense weapon was well.

One of the most impressive sights I ever experienced was watching a Vulcan pour fire into junk vehicles at Fort Bliss from a distance of about a mile and a half. Those 20 mm rounds are about 6" long, and even with every fifth round a tracer, it looked like a ray gun, solid red. The sound can only be compared to a double A fuel dragster at full throttle. It looked like someone was standing inside the vehicle heaving buckets of brass out as fast as they could. As the rounds they were shooting that night were HE, the effects on the junk vehicles were very impressive. What was left were pieces small enough to put in your pocket. All in the matter of a very few minutes.

94 posted on 10/16/2001 1:38:00 PM PDT by jimt
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To: ScreamingFist
The top one (of the chute) looks like it MIGHT have come from an F-15. I may be wrong, but that's about the fig' they had (and it's been 20 years for me).
95 posted on 10/16/2001 1:46:30 PM PDT by TheRealLobo
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To: spectr17
Excellent pics S17, and your handle suggests that you might have a considerable knowledge of gunships, share if you can.
96 posted on 10/16/2001 1:48:17 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: TheRealLobo
"The top one (of the chute) looks like it MIGHT have come from an F-15"

Yea, I'm guessing too. I'm familiar with the F-16, gun is mounted on the left upper strake with the drum in the center and the ammo feed on the underside of the right strake. I'm sure a Navy FReeper will be along shortly to confirm or deny or guesses :)

97 posted on 10/16/2001 1:53:24 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: jimt
If you would like to read more about USAF Special Operations and Air Commandos and their history, Orr Kelly had a good book out by the name "From A Dark Sky. From a Dark Sky

Other good books on USAF Air commandos and special operations

U.S. Air Force Special Ops (Power Series) by Fred J. Pushies

Air Commando : Fifty Years of the Usaf Air Commando and Special Operations Forces, 1944-1994 by Philip D. Chinnery, Harry C. Aderholt

98 posted on 10/16/2001 1:54:36 PM PDT by spectr17
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To: ScreamingFist
or=our, darn I need to quit drinking beer when posting. Or not.
99 posted on 10/16/2001 1:56:03 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: LetsRok
As I remember after the Duke told him where to put the Puff pilot replied.
"It'll only take a minute."
100 posted on 10/16/2001 2:05:34 PM PDT by b fair
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