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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
I see he (rightly) is deeply concerned over the seeming overnightness of the moral decadence engulfing Muslim youth. He balmes it on the culture, the media, America in general. And I understand what he's saying-yes the culture and government is increasingly decadent, yes the media is morally bankrupt. But the fact that so many, if he is correct, Muslim youth are turning away from Islam and morallity-shouldn't that give him pause to consider his religion? It is not entirely the fault of America-sure, there are influences, but it should not be so, if his religion is true and his Allah has real power, it should not be that force or threat of force keep Muslims in line. That is the fundamental flaw (besides simply not being the way to God) of Islam. It is the reliance on force. I admire their morality, thier stance on political and cultural issues, their dislike of government control. But it is the source from which these ideas flow, and the idea of forced conversion if needed, that causes me to see Islam as a threat and potential danger. I will never call for inoccent people be deported-I still remember a thing called the Constitution-but i can not and will not accept Islam as truth, and will not accept it as a treuly peaceful religion.
11 posted on 10/15/2001 7:11:25 PM PDT by Cleburne
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To: Cleburne
I assured them that one-by-one, they would be snatched off the street and taken somewhere where their legs would be broken with baseball bats. Perhaps this posture is extreme for some faint-hearted Muslims, but wasn't it Allah who told us that "amongst your children are enemies of Allah"?

That's seems to be about as peaceful as Islam gets.

12 posted on 10/15/2001 7:18:11 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: Cleburne
But it is the source from which these ideas flow, and the idea of forced conversion if needed, that causes me to see Islam as a threat and potential danger.

It is so intolerant that the PC police should be screaming for the Taliban's blood, and yet some on the left are under the illusion that simply reaching out to their Muslim brothers who despise them will result in world peace. Then some of these same deluded folks on the left blame us. It's just wrong.

15 posted on 10/15/2001 7:30:38 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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