[OLD REGGIE]

The Pope was represented at this council and no decisions regarding faith and morals were approved without all the Bishops, in communion with the Pope, in agreement. So the church was willing to accept the help of an emperor, to listen to what he had to say, but not to accept the rule of an emperor in matters of faith. Constantine did not vote on anything during this council. And to summarize what the Church taught in matters of faith and morals all you have to do is read Creed of Nicea. This same creed is still recited today

Marvelous choice of words. So the Church was willing to accept "help" from the Emperor even though they had no choice. The Church was not in charge. The Emperor was, and Emperors would remain so for many years.

[SoothingDave]

So the Church was willing to accept "help" from the Emperor even though they had no choice. The Church was not in charge. The Emperor was, and Emperors would remain so for many years.

And was not the Emperor made Emperor by God? Wasn't he used by God to accomlish great things? What about the Council or the creed exactly do you find not true? Or are we just shocked by the pedigree of its making?

SD

[Invincibly Ignorant]

In the end, we get them all. Steven fought it for a long time too, but gave in at the end. :-)

Its the term they use for most non-catholics Reg. Just humor them Reg it allows you to move on to the next subject quicker. One less gnat to strain and one less camel to swallow. :-)

[pegleg]

Marvelous choice of words. So the Church was willing to accept "help" from the Emperor even though they had no choice. The Church was not in charge. The Emperor was, and Emperors would remain so for many years.

How do you know they had no choice? Why do you say the Church was not in charge? Do you even know what was discussed and decided upon at this council besides refuting the Arian heresy and writing a profession of faith we call the Nicene Creed?

Still waiting to hear how your group of Christians handled this Arian problem. Or is it as Steven described?