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To: JHavard
Looks great. I think I'll send my own to the local parish (minus the "not Catholic" part).
32,040 posted on 03/05/2002 5:14:25 PM PST by IMRight
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To: angelo;wordsmith;all
All

Has anybody else seen this yet?

What faith are you?

Here's my results:
1. Eastern Orthodox (100%)
2. Roman Catholic (100%)
3. Conservative Protestant (85%)
4. Orthodox Judaism (80%)
5. Orthodox Quaker (77%)

It goes south from there (I probably won't be checking out "#21 - Hinduism" this week). The high quaker score is interesting though....

32,041 posted on 03/05/2002 5:57:59 PM PST by IMRight
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To: IMRight; eastsider; american_colleen; SoothingDave; pelayo; RobbyS; al_c
Just noticed this on andrewsullivan.com. I try to ignore him on most everything related to religion since he's a declared gay Catholic, but I thought that some here could comment on this. Half the priests?! Egad.

"THE VATICAN’S ROT: I bumped into another gay Catholic tonight – Notre Dame graduate, weekly church-goer, concerned and dedicated layman. He told me he couldn’t go to church any more. The way in which the Vatican’s chief spokesman, Joaquin Navarro-Falls, tried to pin the Church’s pedophile corruption on good gay priests last Sunday was just too much for him. “They’ve declared war on us. All of us,” he said to me. “If we stay, we simply condone the bigotry and ingratitude. I don’t know where to go, but I cannot stay any more.” I’m beginning to believe he’s right – this is a watershed moment. For a quarter of a century, gay Catholics and gay priests have clung to the reed of the 1976 doctrine that homosexuality as a condition is not sinful, and that homosexuals are persons with dignity who belong in the Church. Now Navarro-Falls, a member of the Opus Dei sect that now dominates the Church hierarchy while the pope declines into aged irrelevance, has abandoned that doctrine. Gays cannot be ordained, he says. Worse, their ordinations are invalid. He’s almost daring gay priests to quit. You know how many American priests would be left? Perhaps half of the current number. And a hierarchy that subjected children in its care to serial molestation now tries to change the subject by impugning its own innocent gay priests. This gambit by the hierarchy shows the “objective disorder” at the heart of their ideology. As Margery Eagan puts it in Tuesday’s Boston Herald,

"While church leadership dumped from Boston parishes Catholic gays who refused to renounce their ``sin,'' as we all know now it has not even acknowledged what scholars and parishioners - and their children - have noticed for years: that scores of Catholic priests - many of its very, very finest priests, in fact - are gay. But the big gay elephant sits there in the middle of the rectory table. We pretend we don't see it. The culture of silence prevails.

"Eagen is no anti-Catholic liberal and neither is her paper. And nor am I. She just sees corruption and bigotry when it stares her in the face. She also shows how the Vatican’s stupendous hypocrisy over its own gay priests is connected with the pedophile corruption. Good gay priests may have been afraid to name pedophiles for fear they would be smeared as well. It turns out their fears were justified. It seems to me that after the Vatican’s declaration of war on its gay clergy last weekend that gay priests have a simple duty. They need to come out in large numbers to their parishioners and to the press. They need to dare the Vatican to fire them. They need to stop the defensiveness of the past, stand up for their moral integrity, and expose the rot at the heart of the Church. And lay Catholics need to support them against the hierarchy every inch of the way. How dare the Church impugn innocents while it shelters the guilty? And how can decent American Catholics not rise up against the hierarchy for it?"

32,076 posted on 03/06/2002 6:06:40 AM PST by Wordsmith
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