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To: angelo
Now, please point out for me where, precisely, in the Christian scriptures Jesus is ever named or even called Immanuel by his mother or anyone else.

Jesus is always called God with us (Immanuel/Emmanuel). His friends, the Apostles refer to Christ as God all throughout the New Testament.

You fail your own test. The boy of the prophetess was not being called Immanuel in 8. Verse 8 calls it Immanuels land. When did Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz ever rule over Judah?

No, God owned the land of Judah. So did "God with us" (Immanuel/Emmanuel).
Hint: Jesus!

I don't mean to be derisive, Nate, but considering the weight your interpretations of scripture hold in this discussion, I cannot really take this comment as criticism.

Not offended here.
but I still would believe a practicing Jew, with much knowledge of Christian scripture, would be able to see Christ's "coming in the clouds" references to the second coming as being fulfilled during 70 AD. Being that YOUR scriptures have God coming in the clouds (as shikinah glory, as His chariot in judgment, etc) refering always to judgment and deliverance/salvation.

Funny how you side with their lack of knowledge of "clouds", "stars falling", "earth haken", "day of the Lord" all throughout YOUR Old Testament prophecies always fulfilled by an empirical army conquering whomever was being prophesied against.
31,774 posted on 03/04/2002 9:28:59 PM PST by NATE4"ONE NATION"
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To: NATE4"ONE NATION"
Awesome pictures, Nate! Thanks for sharing them.

Jesus is always called God with us (Immanuel/Emmanuel).

Great! Then it should be no problem at all for you to cite these passages for me (chapter and verse, please). I eagerly await your reply.

31,775 posted on 03/04/2002 9:45:22 PM PST by malakhi
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