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To: NATE4"ONE NATION"
We are sanctified ( seen as perfect in the eyes of God) AT the point of faith in Christ. It is an event, not a process. Are you saying that it has to be a dramatic moment, like Paul's conversion on the road to Damascus? But Acts and Paul don't depict that "event," in the same light. In Acts it seems like a process. In his letters, more like what you say. But If it is true that I Thess. is his first letter, than the views he holds in Romans are what he sees in retrospect. His meeting with Jesus was more a call then a conversion, because at that moment Paul made no decision: he was literally knocked off stride. Just as Peter and the rest were first call and then came to know their mission, the same was true of Paul. It all took time. Why not, we all libe in time.
31,428 posted on 03/02/2002 8:33:57 AM PST by RobbyS
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To: RobbyS
We are sanctified ( seen as perfect in the eyes of God) AT the point of faith in Christ. It is an event, not a process. Are you saying that it has to be a dramatic moment, like Paul's conversion on the road to Damascus? But Acts and Paul don't depict that "event," in the same light. In Acts it seems like a process. In his letters, more like what you say. But If it is true that I Thess. is his first letter, than the views he holds in Romans are what he sees in retrospect. His meeting with Jesus was more a call then a conversion, because at that moment Paul made no decision: he was literally knocked off stride. Just as Peter and the rest were first call and then came to know their mission, the same was true of Paul. It all took time. Why not, we all libe in time.Which is it Robby? Did it take time to know his mission or to convert? Sure looks like the conversion happened quick to me

acts 9;6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

Sounds like he decided to obey and follow instantly. Do you ever actually read the book? Or is all your reading time spent reading papal history and tradition?

31,429 posted on 03/02/2002 10:25:27 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: RobbyS
Are you saying that it has to be a dramatic moment, like Paul's conversion on the road to Damascus?

It is an event, as calm as a few words, as passionate as a night of tears. It depends on how God strikes the heart of the individual. Sanctification is a spiritual reality which happens at the moment of salvation, we live out the process, the spiritual reality that God already see's, until we go to be with Him.

But Acts and Paul don't depict that "event," in the same light. In Acts it seems like a process. In his letters, more like what you say. But If it is true that I Thess. is his first letter, than the views he holds in Romans are what he sees in retrospect. His meeting with Jesus was more a call then a conversion, because at that moment Paul made no decision: he was literally knocked off stride. Just as Peter and the rest were first call and then came to know their mission, the same was true of Paul. It all took time. Why not, we all libe in time.

I hold that the path to salvation for those, still under the Old Covenant, was different than ours. They had to maintain a life held to certain standards and practicing certain "sacraments" which we no longer are required to do.
We have been freed from the "law" and are under grace. It happened at the consumation of the kingdom which only one other Neverending "regular" even believes in.
31,431 posted on 03/02/2002 11:09:09 AM PST by NATE4"ONE NATION"
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