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To: SoothingDave
(Posted by, I believe, SD) Does homosexuality render procreation impossible? Then it is intrinsically evil.

(Reggie) Does abstinence render procreation impossible? Are you implying that the entire Priesthood is intrinsically evil?

(SD) There you go again. Again to the Catechism paragraph you cited.

"...In contrast, "every action which, whether in anticipation of the conjugal act, or in its accomplishment, or in the development of its natural consequences, proposes, whether as an end or as a means, to render procreation impossible" is intrinsically evil

(SD>) Abstinance is not an action. It is the avoidance of an action. Therefore, your argument, as such, falls flat. Really, Reggie. Try reading it as other than a source of loopholes and "gotchas."

In the Catechism quotation I took the liberty of highlighting the words conjugal act in addition to underlining a few "or's" which make it clear the only context must be in the conjugal act.

Now, Mr. Dave, please explain to this simple one the connection you implied when you said: "Does homosexuality render procreation impossible? Then it is intrinsically evil." How does homosexuality relate to a "conjugal act"?

Oh master of language, explain one more time, where I erred in my claim that the writers of the Catholic Catechism has seen fit to label only two actions "intrinsically evil".

1. Rape.
2. Artificial Birth Control.

Ps. If you didn't make the statement I attributed to you, just pretend it never happened.
31,145 posted on 02/28/2002 4:33:31 PM PST by OLD REGGIE
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To: OLD REGGIE
Now, Mr. Dave, please explain to this simple one the connection you implied when you said: "Does homosexuality render procreation impossible? Then it is intrinsically evil." How does homosexuality relate to a "conjugal act"?

It is a perversion of it, a mockery of it. But those engaged in it believe they are commiting a conjugal act.

SD

31,196 posted on 03/01/2002 6:19:24 AM PST by SoothingDave
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