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To: SoothingDave
Others like to think of the Catholic Church named in the creeds as the "invisible" Church of all believers. They also take offense at an unmodified "Catholic" being used by us.

The creed I read, and accept, would make me a member of the "catholic" Church. BBBBBBig difference.

I agree most of us know the term "Catholic Church" refers to the Roman Church. It does appear it is the height of arrogance to appropriate the word "Catholic" to yourself and to the total exclusion of of all others.

Where did the use of "One Holy and Apostolic" originate?
3,090 posted on 10/26/2001 10:17:33 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE
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To: OLD REGGIE
Where did the use of "One Holy and Apostolic" originate?

Conciet? A deep and wide pit which cannot be measured?

3,096 posted on 10/26/2001 10:32:25 AM PDT by Havoc
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To: OLD REGGIE
It does appear it is the height of arrogance to appropriate the word "Catholic" to yourself and to the total exclusion of of all others.

Back in the day there was the "universal" Church and there were a bunch of heretics running around in contrast. the name stuck.

Where did the use of "One Holy and Apostolic" originate?

They are in the Nicene Creed, though I don't know if they originate with that council. The four "marks" by which you can tell the true Church are these. The Church is One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic. A Church which does not have all 4 of these could not possibly be the true Church.

SD

3,101 posted on 10/26/2001 10:37:19 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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