[Invincibly Ignorant]

I wish you well, honestly, but I will not be surprised to see this in your future.

Well Dfender I thought you'd be the last catholic on these threads to go into attack mode. I was wrong.

[D-fendr]

thank you Steven, mine was a long and thoughtfully considered post; I didn't make it lightly or with the intention to attack or cause suffering; but to lessen it. After a long period of thought, this is what I thought most helpful to communicate.

I can always be wrong, but when I believe harm can be avoided I believe I have an obligation to look for a skillful avoidance.

that was my intent, you may well think I failed.

thanks for your reply…

[the808bass]

Well Dfender I thought you'd be the last catholic on these threads to go into attack mode. I was wrong.

I think you were right. He was the last one to go into attack mode. :) This one has been brewing. And Havoc is not known for tact or subtlety. And for that you gotta love him or love to hate him. He's kind of the Bill Laimbeer (or to use a good analogy closer to you) or Bill Romanowski of the Proddies. If he's on your team, you gotta love being next to him. If he's on the opposing team, the mere mention of his name brings a frothing foam to the mouth :)

And D-fndr, it wasn't too bad. A little off, but not too bad.