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To: SoothingDave
The security of the believer can better be understood, if we believe and understand that man is a dual being, That man has a twofold nature is abundantly proved by the Scripture. 2 Cor. 4:16, Eph. 3:16, Rom 7:22,

The child of nature is made so by birth, so is the child of God. The child of nature can have but one birth,the child of God can have but one birth. 1Pet.1:23. If you can understand the difference between the inner and outer man, having a carnal and spiritual nature dwelling in him and that the fleshly or carnal nature is at war wtih the spiritual nature you will no difficulty understanding the subject of the Security of the Believer. Roms. 7:14-25 gives a full description of these two natures.

No person who believes in works for salvation can believe in the security of the believer If we can help God save us, slavation is not whooly of God. If ANY carnal ordinance is necessary to our salvation, then salvation is part by works and part by grace and therefore not wholly of God. In order to obtain salvation we must be willing to surrender all to Jesus. If we surrender our selves to Him, then we become passive in salvation.We turn orselves over to him in repentance, for repentance is a turning away from sin unto God through faith in Jesus, and at this time God saves us in His won way. Acts 3:19 "Be converted." Conversion is God's work, we repent, but God does the converting.

Becky

2,548 posted on 10/24/2001 1:36:40 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
. If we surrender our selves to Him, then we become passive in salvation.

This is what I don't get. Are we truly passive? I realize that we are called to do the work of Christ, to be his arms and legs. But are we passive in this?

SD

2,550 posted on 10/24/2001 1:45:35 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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