Bad rhetoric, Dave. The proof's in the pudding. You won't look at the pudding or taste it, you merely pick up the packaging your church offered and want to show us their picture of it and their description. I've presented the documents - which both by circumstance and by the types they are serve as proof in and of themselves in some cases - ie the effect on doctrine.
You have had proof before you. You're still trying to tell us that a black wall isn't a black wall - because you say so. Your clergy lied through it's teeth to try and take power over all of catholocism and anything that called itself christian. They caused a schism in the process. And they used forgeries and frauds to do it. It's no wonder Pius was so defensive about it in that 'we aren't responsible for the schism' remark. Couldn't fess up then, and won't fess up even now. Revisionists on inquisition, decretals, crusades..... It's sad the number of things your clergy has to lie about or distort nowadays. But mistating facts to bolster claims is standard - just like the non-unanimous unanimous consent. All noise and no substance.
Oh hi Havoc. I couldn't see you, but when I listened to the words, I knew it couldn't be anyone else!