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To: SoothingDave
To clarify the notion of grace held by the Orthodox. To us, grace is participation in the Uncreated Energies of God, though the gift of the Holy Spirit. I think it inaccurate to make a dichotomy between "in grace"/"out of grace". Those who are being saved (and even those who eventually fall away) partake of grace in varying degrees.

I, for instance, ploddingly say the Hours twice a week in a small chapel, despite the fact no one comes to say them with me--something the natural fallen man would not do, regarding it as a waste of time--however, I do not shine with the Uncreated Light as did St. Seraphim of Sarov. He partook in his earthly life of more grace than I have (yet--all pious Orthodox pray and struggle in hope of obtaining sanctity in this life, not just the next.)

2,463 posted on 10/24/2001 9:10:20 AM PDT by The_Reader_David
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To: The_Reader_David
Those who are being saved (and even those who eventually fall away) partake of grace in varying degrees.

Thank you for your words. I like how you mention "being saved" as if it was a process and not a moment.

SD

2,465 posted on 10/24/2001 9:14:37 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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