[D-fendr]

Based on your last statement to Angelo, I'm inferring you think some Catholics can go to heaven, but not your family given the evidence of their belief as your dad stated it to you. Hence your looking for: "A way to convince a catholic to take a different look at their faith" (those that think they are saved by going through the motions).

And that it could be remedied except that they "they don't have a clue about what some of these people on here say that all signifies."

It could be suggested that they, as you say, look deeper into their faith, but not if they are unwilling.

Seems another impasse, doesn't it?

Maybe there's another way to look at it. Given two assumptions you've described:

1) They lack heart knowledge of Jesus Christ; and,

2)You cannot have a religious discussion with them.

The question that leads to is:

Is it possible to communicate heart knowledge of Jesus Christ while avoiding what they would think is a religious discussion?

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

Is it possible to communicate heart knowledge of Jesus Christ while avoiding what they would think is a religious discussion?

Yes very much so, Christians should live their lives at all times (most of us fail miserably at this:(, and then even during trials God's peace (Heart knowledge) will show in thier lives. It will be apparent to people watching and hopefully they might ask where your peace comes from. This is my understanding of being a witness for Jesus.

Becky