[SoothingDave]

You old liar! How quickly you would like to forget 'Bloody' Mary when Rome had control of England again and burned at the stake those who even had a Bible. Two parents were burned at the stake for just teaching their children the Lords prayer in English! It is all there in Fox's book of martyr's.

Foxes Book is a joke. And you have an awful lot of gumption to bring up to an Irishman the poor treatment that Protestants received under Mary. An awful lot. Why don't you look up the Penal Laws and Cromwell and then come back and whine.

My anscestors were forbidden to worship, own property, arms, etc. etc. for the sin of being Catholic and in the way.

SD

[RobbyS]

Foxes Book is a joke. And you have an awful lot of gumption to bring up to an Irishman the poor treatment that Protestants received under Mary. An awful lot. Why don't you look up the Penal Laws and Cromwell and then come back and whine. My Good ness, this thread does moe along!

The Book of Martyrs is propoganda in behalf of a queen who was busily hunting down Jesuits with her secret service. I dare say that no country was ever worst ruled by foreigners than the Irish were by the English. You might throw in the slave-catchers who took the "wild Irish" from the West to be sold as "servants" in Virginia and in Jamaica. The average life-span of "servants" on the Virginia and Carolina plantations was about 7 years, and in Jamaica even less. The depredations did not stop until after Queen Anne's War when the English gained the monopoly over the African slave trade. I gather that the Irish will forgive the English for their crimes about the same time that the Greeks forgive the pope for Constantinople.