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To: SoothingDave
I can give you the current belief, but archaeological evidence can always change that.

Rofl. States it as fact, then propounds "belief" as proof. There is nowhere in the Bible any requirement to believe in some organization which wrought it's power through lies, fraud and deciet. Where is the proof. After all your church rests a great deal on this "claim". Divine right succession was a farse created by the seculars and adopted in an attempt to give you legitimacy with the public. It buys you no legitimacy with God. But, your clergy wasn't interested in God when they duped everyone with the story. They were interested in popular opinion to build based on the lies that they told. It did, they won acceptance through fraud. A seed planted of evil cannot bare good fruit. You may show people good deeds; but, hey, even satanists give to charities and donate their time to 'good' causes. Deeds are not fruit, saved souls are. And given that your clergy professes a different salvation than that which Christ and the Apostles professed, that should say it all.

24,343 posted on 02/05/2002 6:30:56 PM PST by Havoc
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To: Havoc
Did you catch my reference to the decretals a few pages back. There were some notes accompanying Cyprian's "On the Unity of the Church" that indicated that the decretals played a key role in the establishment of the absolute authority of the Roman See. Thought you might be interested... I can shoot you a hot link if you want, just freepmail me...
24,344 posted on 02/05/2002 6:39:38 PM PST by the808bass
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