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To: Woodkirk
So you are saying that Strong's Exhaustive Concordance is incorrect when it translates "tokos" to mean "usury, money loaned at interest" or what?. Take that up with Strong's. Tell them that they are wrong and that they should quit telling people what words mean. Then take it up with Luke and Matthew. Then take it up with Jesus because he used that word to mean just that.

Are you pulling our leg? You can't really be that dense, can you? Get this: Strong's is not a dictionary. It wasn't written as one and it does not serve as one.

Is that clear? What Strong's does is tell you what the words used in the NT mean, in context. These words also have multiple meanings, often related. That is, a word can mean different things depending on context. To not recognize this fact is to be deliberately obtuse. We could provide many many examples of the same phenomenon in English or any other language.

Just because "Jesus said it" or the NT uses one particular definition of a word does not negate the existence of others. You are in grave danger of displaying the worship of the sacred text that we Catholics always accuse you of.

Do words have objective meanings or Humpty Dumpty meanings to you? If words have no objective meanings, then why do you argue with the meaning of the word "Theotokos" as "God of Usury". If meaning rests with the reader, then is it not the right of the reader to make up his meaning. You do it all the time.

The meaning rests with the people who originated the word. And that had to do with the controversies over the nature of Christ and had little to do with interest.

Do you understand at all that tokos can mean both childbirth/childbearing and interest on money? Do you understand at all why these would be served by the same word? Do you understand at all how language develops and evolves, how old words are forced into new meanings as situations change?

Have you ever heard of an "interest bearing" account? Does that ring a bell?

SD

24,063 posted on 02/05/2002 5:41:32 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
My wife is a natural childbirth educator and she just said that the study of childbirth is called "tocology". I thought that was interesting, so from a medical online text I find:

"Tocology The science of childbirth, is one of the words in this theme. Tokos, the root of the word, is Greek for childbirth but obstetrics is commonly used instead."

Bet all those OB/GYN doctors out there will be shocked to find that they have been moneylenders all along.

24,069 posted on 02/05/2002 5:50:58 AM PST by IMRight
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To: SoothingDave
He probably also will be unwilling to accept the KJV New Testament Greek Lexicon 's word on the subject.
24,073 posted on 02/05/2002 5:54:56 AM PST by IMRight
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