[SoothingDave]

If and when GWB wins the war agaist Afganistan will he move his headquarter there?

No, but he is operating from a position of power. Ask it the other way. If the Afghans defeated America, would they come live here? Darn tootin'.

The Church "took over" the Empire in the sense that they were able to use its far flung power and interests to bring people to Christ. This would not have been nthe case if they never set up shop in the capital in the first place. Their impact would have been limited to their region.

As I said with the keys and the power of God it shouldn't matter where the headquarters are, actually it should. It should be in a place established, where there is you can be relativly sure of safty.

This isn't proven. In the capital city of the Empire you can be reasonable assurd of safety and can spread your message. What is the deal with Jerusalem? It is the capital of the Jews. Christianity is a religion for all peoples. The best way to get all peoples on board is to go where they are.

I am talking about THE HEADQUARTERS, THE VATICAN. Or did all that come after Peter.

Peter certainly didn't build St Peter's Bascillica. I don't think that any of us are arguing that Peter went to Rome and established a huge burequcratic organization. The structure and the order came as the Church grew. This was necessary and is not a bad thing. Structure is not bad.

But Peter was there and the people he left behind, appointed to succeed him were able to use their location to the advantage of the growth of the Church.

SD

[IMRight]

This was necessary and is not a bad thing. Structure is not bad.

You must not have come into work when you were sick and puttered around waiting for three people (who are not subject matter experts) to read two pages you wrote two weeks ago so that you can send it out to 6000 people who needed to know last week.

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

If Peter had not been so throughly Jewish, I MIGHT be able to see it this way. But Peter was still very Jewish even though he was christian.

Far as the afgans moving here if they won the war I don't think so. They would most definitly send troops here to run us, but there headquarters, their Vatican, if you will, (no disrespect intended) would be in Afganistan. IMO.

Becky

[OLD REGGIE]

But Peter was there and the people he left behind, appointed to succeed him were able to use their location to the advantage of the growth of the Church.

I'm still waiting for you to show who he appointed as his succesor. Dates and biographies. Are you ducking?

[Havoc]

Peter certainly didn't build St Peter's Bascillica. I don't think that any of us are arguing that Peter went to Rome and established a huge burequcratic organization. The structure and the order came as the Church grew. This was necessary and is not a bad thing. Structure is not bad. But Peter was there and the people he left behind, appointed to succeed him were able to use their location to the advantage of the growth of the Church.

Or so you keep saying. This same sad story is why your clergy needed the decretals, among other forgeries, so badly. There is no foundation for the claim, let alone proof. But there is motive. What possible reason might someone have for pushing such a pack of absurdity? Power. And they committed fraud to get it.