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To: fortheDeclaration
"The best works to understand this system are the oldC.I. Scofield and the work 'Dispensational Truth' by Clarance Larkin.'

But, but… If your main point was nothing needed outside teaching the scripture, why wouldn't proper teaching be limited to teaching how to memorize the Bible. And wouldn't Scofield and Larkin be extra-biblical, when did this dipensational tradition begin?

I'm not being critical of what you decide is your best understanding of your religious teaching. I am reiterating that it is a false distinction to claim to be different than those who follow the teaching of men and "tradition."

Lot's of stuff to disagree about as far as meaning, but "without tradition or teaching of men" is not something an organized church or theological system can exist.

23,932 posted on 02/04/2002 12:21:50 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr
But, but… If your main point was nothing needed outside teaching the scripture, why wouldn't proper teaching be limited to teaching how to memorize the Bible.

God does give men the gift of teaching(Eph.4:11) Now, these men must teach what the scriptures teach, or we reject them (or we should reject them)

Having Bibles, the church is to check those teachers against those same scriptures.(Acts 17:11) The difference between our system and yours is that the men do not hold any special relationship with God, and thus, a special authority with us. It is the Bible that is always the final authority.

And wouldn't Scofield and Larkin be extra-biblical,

No, both use scriptures to support their dispensational teaching. This is not to say I agree with all they teach, for some of it doesn't line up with scripture and when it doesn't it must be rejected.

when did this dipensational tradition begin?

Premillennial theology was the theology of the early church until Augustine brought in Amillennial theology in the 4th century with his City of God. Origen preceded him with this view. An excellent work dealing with the history is the 3 vol work by Peters The Theocratic Kingdom. Dispensational theology became more defined about the 19th century,

I'm not being critical of what you decide is your best understanding of your religious teaching. I am reiterating that it is a false distinction to claim to be different than those who follow the teaching of men and "tradition."

No, each individual believer must read the scriptures and test those who are teaching if they are following those scriptures. A teacher is one who God has given the ability to make the complex more simple, but he is not a substitute for reading the Bible for oneself and seeing if what the teacher is teaching is correct or not.

Lot's of stuff to disagree about as far as meaning, but "without tradition or teaching of men" is not something an organized church or theological system can exist.

A local church will have a theological system it will follow, but it will be one based on the clear teachings of the Scriptures.

Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual (1Cor.2:13)

24,035 posted on 02/04/2002 8:01:16 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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