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To: Invincibly Ignorant
While you are reading Macks post:)

The catholic church denies that Mary had a sin nature or that she ever committed wrong doing. Following are quotes from Catholic Publications:

The Immaculate Conception-or the fact that Mary was conceived without the stain of original sin-is a doctrine of the faith contained implicitly in Holy Scripture. The Holy Ghost did not express it in so many words; but he deposited it in the bibllical statements from which, like a seed, it grew up in the living Church of Christ until it reached its full size demension. Could the mother of the Saviour, shairng in her Son's victory, be, even for a moment , under the power of Satan? She had to be free from original sin. Finall, in 1854 Pope pius IX declared it a revealed doctrine- one of theose that have to be believed by all who share the faith of the church.

The Immaculate Virgin was preserved free from all stain of original sin" (Vatican II documents, "Dogmatic Constitution of the Church").

See it was revealed later and you have to believe it:)

Could someone explain the "sharing in her Son's victory," part for me.

Becky

23,813 posted on 02/04/2002 9:02:01 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
See it was revealed later and you have to believe it:)

Yup that's pretty wierd. Mary had parents who were born in sin. Dunno how they get around that.

23,820 posted on 02/04/2002 9:05:45 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Could someone explain the "sharing in her Son's victory," part for me.

It means she was "saved." I and you and every Christian here expects to one day "share in her Son's victory."

SD

23,829 posted on 02/04/2002 9:17:14 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
From a Strong's Concordance:

"Theotokos" which the RCC and OC claim means "Mother of God", is a combination of "Theo" meaning "God, deity" and "tokos" meaning "usury, interest on money". Isn't that interesting.

"Mother of God" in the Greek would be "Theometer" with "meter" being the Greek word for 'mother" -- of which the mother goddess "Demeter" is a variation.

"Theotokos" -- would that term refer to "the deity of usury", the deity of money", the "deity of moneylenders -- the god of mammon.

Catholics and Greek Orthodox are being conned big time. If only they understood the words that they used --

23,905 posted on 02/04/2002 11:56:51 AM PST by Woodkirk
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