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To: IMRight
Which do you choose? Your previous answer implies a seperation between "Christ" and "God".

I choose the latter and disagree my interpretation implies a separation. Your saying God can't become flesh by being born from a mortal. I say he's God and can do anything he wants. You've got the problem of Mary's parents having original sin as well. Since we inherited or nature from Adam so did Mary's parents.

23,727 posted on 02/04/2002 6:10:29 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Your saying God can't become flesh by being born from a mortal. I say he's God and can do anything he wants. You've got the problem of Mary's parents having original sin as well. Since we inherited or nature from Adam so did Mary's parents.

Just to clarify, the Orthodox do not accept any doctrine like the RC doctrine of Immaculate Conception. We do not believe that Mary was anything more or less than a fully normal mortal woman. To believe otherwise breaks down the joining of the fully Divine with the fully mortal.

23,730 posted on 02/04/2002 6:15:30 AM PST by Wordsmith
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
I was merely trying to differentiate between "God bearer" and "God creator" which you seem to be implying was a necessity of the RC position. The discussion seemed to be on the distinction that Mary could be the mother of Jesus (or half of Jesus) and not the mother of God.

The logical gymnastics are entertaining.

It's a simple formula from freshman logic courses "If A implies B and B equals C than A implies C"

If Mary is the Mother of Jesus and Jesus = God. Than Mary is the Mother of God.

The logic can be broken in one of two ways. Either Mary is not the Mother of Jesus. Or Jesus is not God. Arguments that seem to differentiate between Mother of Jesus and Mother of God imply that the speaker does not believe that Jesus is God (fitting my response to your first argument). Arguments like your second that speak of "natures" attempt to say that Mary was not, in fact, the mother of Jesus. That Jesus was 50% God and 50% Man when we know that it is not so. Such argument are based on human reasoning and opperate in reverse: "We know that Mary can't be very important because those darn Catholics like her so much, so she can't be mother of God"

23,734 posted on 02/04/2002 6:26:31 AM PST by IMRight
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