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I realize you probably don't think they apply to you because you are "saved," but most Christians try to adhere to them.

Typical. And is all I see lately is the charge of "Anti-catholic," "Everyone is so mean to us poor catholic's," blah, blah, blah. LOOK AT THE WAY YOU ARE ANSWERING. Why should we like you when you won't even answer a question let alone say it civilly.

What happened to the people who ate meat on Fri. when it was a sin?

If they were cuplable for the sin of disobedience then God would have used it as a factor when they were judged. (I'm not in the position to say they are in hell, but it is a serious sin to willfully disobey the Church.)

How can it be fair to change rules in mid-stream?

You misunderstand the "rule" which was broken. The sin is disobedience. Before Vatican II disobeying the church was a sin. After, disobeying the church is still a sin. Nothing's changed.

I do hope you don't think we are sending people to hell who forgot it was Friday or who honestly could not follow the Church law?

Why do you not consider it "works" when it is a made up rule by the church, that can be found no where in God's word, but will send you to hell?

Jesus does say to listen to the Church in Scripture. Now why should our obedience effect our salvation? I don't know but that seems tob e the way God put things together. I know you believe otherwise, but I believe that if I fall into grave sin I will go to hell. After all it is the "doers" of the Law who are rewarded.

"sigh" As far as the 10 commandments, those are God's laws. They serve a purpose. They show us our sins. Fasting from meat on Fri. shows us nothing.

Au contraire Abstaining from meat is a way to remember the supreme sacrifice Jesus made for us. it is not an empty gesture, or at least should not be one.

I keep the 10 because God said if you love me you will keep my commandments. I do them because I love him and feel grateful to him for saving me, NOT TO GET SAVED.

Didn't I get hell for saying the same thing up above? That you don't feel that how you obey the commandments has anything to do with your salvation? (OK. I apologize because I know a good Christian tries to adhere to them, but you have to admit you don't think they have anything to do with salvation.)

Why is it so important to you that we affirm, like you, that Mary is the "mother of God"?...Why is it not enough for you or the R Catholic church for us to say JESUS is GOD?

We want you to affirm it because it is true and because it will be one instance in which we can agree....

But what about my second question: Why is it not enough for you...(etc)?

Because as we have found here, many folks are very confused with their Christology and use the opportunity to deny Mary her role as theotokos to display their confusion. we hear talk of Mary birthing only "the human half" of Jesus and such. Just saying "Jesus is God" is not sufficient. One must at least also say "and He always was God, even when in the womb." This logically implies theotokos.