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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
What part of "Not of works lest any man should boast" don't you understand? When you are forced to do something by the church, and condemed to hell if you don't, that is works.

So anything we do, or refrain from doing, is a "work"?

God has a list of things we shouldn't do. They are called Commandments. I realize you probably don't think they apply to you because you are "saved," but most Christians try to adhere to them. Are they doing this as a "work"? Isn't God "forcing" us to follow them under threat of eternal punishment?

SD

2,220 posted on 10/23/2001 9:41:22 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
I realize you probably don't think they apply to you because you are "saved," but most Christians try to adhere to them.

Typical. And is all I see lately is the charge of "Anti-catholic," "Everyone is so mean to us poor catholic's," blah, blah, blah. LOOK AT THE WAY YOU ARE ANSWERING. Why should we like you when you won't even answer a question let alone say it civilly.

What happened to the people who ate meat on Fri. when it was a sin? How can it be fair to change rules in mid-stream? Why do you not consider it "works" when it is a made up rule by the church, that can be found no where in God's word, but will send you to hell?

"sigh" As far as the 10 commandments, those are God's laws. They serve a purpose. They show us our sins. Fasting from meat on Fri. shows us nothing. I keep the 10 because God said if you love me you will keep my commandments. I do them because I love him and feel grateful to him for saving me, NOT TO GET SAVED.

Becky

2,230 posted on 10/23/2001 10:00:59 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: SoothingDave
I realize you probably don't think they apply to you because you are "saved," but most Christians try to adhere to them.

Typical. And is all I see lately is the charge of "Anti-catholic," "Everyone is so mean to us poor catholic's," blah, blah, blah. LOOK AT THE WAY YOU ARE ANSWERING. Why should we like you when you won't even answer a question let alone say it civilly.

What happened to the people who ate meat on Fri. when it was a sin? How can it be fair to change rules in mid-stream? Why do you not consider it "works" when it is a made up rule by the church, that can be found no where in God's word, but will send you to hell?

"sigh" As far as the 10 commandments, those are God's laws. They serve a purpose. They show us our sins. Fasting from meat on Fri. shows us nothing. I keep the 10 because God said if you love me you will keep my commandments. I do them because I love him and feel grateful to him for saving me, NOT TO GET SAVED.

Becky

2,232 posted on 10/23/2001 10:02:18 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: SoothingDave
I realize you probably don't think they apply to you because you are "saved," but most Christians try to adhere to them.

Typical. And is all I see lately is the charge of "Anti-catholic," "Everyone is so mean to us poor catholic's," blah, blah, blah. LOOK AT THE WAY YOU ARE ANSWERING. Why should we like you when you won't even answer a question let alone say it civilly.

What happened to the people who ate meat on Fri. when it was a sin? How can it be fair to change rules in mid-stream? Why do you not consider it "works" when it is a made up rule by the church, that can be found no where in God's word, but will send you to hell?

"sigh" As far as the 10 commandments, those are God's laws. They serve a purpose. They show us our sins. Fasting from meat on Fri. shows us nothing. I keep the 10 because God said if you love me you will keep my commandments. I do them because I love him and feel grateful to him for saving me, NOT TO GET SAVED.

Becky

2,233 posted on 10/23/2001 10:02:53 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: SoothingDave
God has a list of things we shouldn't do. They are called Commandments. I realize you probably don't think they apply to you because you are "saved," but most Christians try to adhere to them. Are they doing this as a "work"? Isn't God "forcing" us to follow them under threat of eternal punishment?

The fullfillment of the Commandments is Obedience to God. If it's work for you to be obedient, then you can call it work. If you want to play word games, then no, it isn't. Obedience is required for fullfillment of promise. If you can't be obedient, you have no promise. Simple as that. But, then, you need the word games to confuse terminology in order to make the statements harder to follow.

2,243 posted on 10/23/2001 10:15:02 AM PDT by Havoc
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