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To: al_c
"You are placing limits on the power and grace of God. Once again, I throw out the example of a person that has never in his/her life ever heard one word about anything regarding God, Jesus, etc. This person dies one day and finds him/herself in Heaven at the face of our maker. Don't you think that this person, too, is entitled to the saving blood of the Lamb of God? Couldn't they, at that point, accept or deny it?"

I am not the one placing limits on the power of God. You are saying that God cannot reveal himself to everyone. You are saying that there are too many people for God to reach, so they will be the exception. That sounds pretty limiting to me. The word of God says that men are without excuse. When they go in front of the Almighty after their life on this earth has come to an end, they will have no excuse. They will have no case on which to stand. God has revealed himself to all. Take the story of Lazarus and the rich man who died. The rich man understood what happened and understood that he was wrong and that he had no excuse, so much so that he begged to return to tell his friends and family about the truth. He didn't get a chance there to acceept or reject God. To accept or reject Christ. You only have the opportunity while you are here on earth. What you believe is unscriptural and a lie, because if you get to heaven without Christ, then God is a liar.

The next logical conclusion of your way of thinking is to totally remove all evidence of God and of Christ. Burn all the Bibles. Tear down all the churches. Remove all the Christians. Totally remove all evidence of God and His Son. Because, if you beleive that people who have never heard the good news, who have never had God revealed to them will go to heaven, then we should remove all evidence of His existence, so that all may share in the bounty of heaven. But you know that is clearly not the case. The only to the Father is through His Son, and anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar. Have faith in the God that saved you from sin and death. He says that no one has an excuse. So are you going to believe Him or the rationalization of man?

JM
2,105 posted on 10/23/2001 6:02:57 AM PDT by JohnnyM
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To: JohnnyM
You are saying that God cannot reveal himself to everyone. You are saying that there are too many people for God to reach, so they will be the exception.

Now you're just putting words into my mouth.

The next logical conclusion of your way of thinking is to totally remove all evidence of God and of Christ. Burn all the Bibles. Tear down all the churches. Remove all the Christians. Totally remove all evidence of God and His Son.

Whatever.

Because, if you beleive that people who have never heard the good news, who have never had God revealed to them will go to heaven, then we should remove all evidence of His existence, so that all may share in the bounty of heaven. But you know that is clearly not the case.

Didn't He once say, when talking to a non-believer that knew Christ but didn't follow Him, that it would be better for those in Sodom and Gamorrah than for him because he had knowledge of Christ but chose not to follow?

The only to the Father is through His Son, and anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar.

When did I ever argue that point? Why do you limit the "through the Son" to a time period on this earth?

Have faith in the God that saved you from sin and death.

I do.

He says that no one has an excuse.

Explain Rom 2: 13-16.

So are you going to believe Him or the rationalization of man?

I'll believe Him, not the rationalization of JohhnyM.

2,114 posted on 10/23/2001 6:59:22 AM PDT by al_c
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