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To: Iowegian
If you had an adopted son and he disobeyed you, would you reject him and kick him out of the family or just discipline him to teach him the right way?

Disobeyed? no. Disinherited himself (as with the prodigal son)? It would not be by my choice. That parable takes on more meaning the deeper you take it in this discussion, but the "once saved, always saved" thread has been well fleshed out by both sides on previous threads.

If the obedience, in and of itself, cannot merit Heaven... how can the disobedience (after accepting Christ) merit Hell? Only the rejection of Christ (the disinheriting) could do that and the Spirit guards us against that choice.

By the way, I didn't mean to ignore your Christmas present analogy (I could really use a DVD player if you're still shopping), I agree that it is true...I just didn't see it as terribly on point. The obedience does not merit the free gift... it is a response to it.

188 posted on 10/15/2001 6:38:01 PM PDT by IMRight
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To: IMRight
OK, I'll leave the discussion while we are in agreement. You apparently aren't going to come right out and admit that obedience is required for salvation in RC theology, though many others here have.
190 posted on 10/15/2001 6:44:32 PM PDT by Iowegian
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