[IMRight]

Actually.. you saying that gives me some hope that we agree on this point "Salvation by faith alone" could easily mean "without faith there can be no salvation - good deed cannot save you"...a very Catholic idea. Or it can mean "faith by itself"... no obedience, etc. is required

We are in complete agreement if you mean the first, but you must agree that there are plenty of Protestants who teach the second (i.e. that "faith alone" refers to faith by itself).

[IMRight]

Whoa! The Catholic got "Scripture Alone" and "Faith Alone" mixed up.

My appologies! I'm trying to get some work done in between replies. I'll let you educate me as penance.

[Iowegian]

We will be in agreement if you state that obedience comes after the saving faith and is in response to the love and grace that God has shown us through His Son. That's probably about as close to agreement we will get. BTW, how much obedience is necessary, in your view, to obtain salvation? Total perfection (sinlessness)? And to what exactly must you be obedient to? I think the answers that people give to these questions is very telling.