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To: hopefulpilgrim
Well yes I believe that it what it is about but it's my understanding that many here do not believe you can know with absolute certainty that you are saved.

I believe that when Jesus is accepted then that person is saved and actually needs to know that in order for certain other things to happen.

From my reading of scripture it appears to me that not knowing is a great hinderance to faith and understanding.

It is far more than something nice to know,it is actually vital.

Would love to take this further,it would be a great encouragement to those who are unsure.However,much like yourself,I am often not near a computer so I tend to post like you do,here and there when I can.Still...knowing you are saved is surely a worthwhile topic and who knows,maybe I could bring something to the discussion that hasn't been considered before.Would love to try anyways.

grace and peace to you all

God bless

1,522 posted on 10/20/2001 1:05:34 AM PDT by mitch5501
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To: mitch5501; hopefulpilgrim
I enjoyed the comments you both made on the security of the believer. I believe that this issue has not been dealt with at length because of a desire on the part of the "Protestants" (I just hate that term:) here to appear united. But I feel this is not being true to God, we should never be afraid to take a stand on something we truly believe.

Having said that let me say that the security of the believer is what brings such absolute peace in our hearts to face what ever comes our way. When we understand that God is fighting our battles, God is the one holding on to us not us holding on to him we can be absolutly sure of salvation. Psa. 37: 23-24 The steps of a good man are ordered by the Lord: and he delighteth in his way Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the Lord upholds him with his hand..

1,550 posted on 10/20/2001 10:33:29 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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