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To: Havoc; Iowegian; Steven; JHavard
Protestants. I could use a little help with one of your brothers:

I think my response to Iowegian takes care of the few relevant points you make. The rest of your post was obviously intended to be inflamatory. Be assured, you were successfull. I will not repeat it even in italics for purposes of reply.

I will not lower other Protestants to your level by drawing any sort of comparison between your behavior and their beliefs. Do you have any concept of the reverence due to your Lord? I don't post with the care the XeniaSt normally does, but your language is beyond the pale.

What is your purpose on these threads? Do you suppose that you are a Christian trying to save people who profess a belief in Christ but are lacking in some regard? How does this type of language when refering directly to Christ achieve that goal. The Gospel can be an offense to those who have not ears to hear... You, sir are just offensive.

JHavard - I hope this doesn't hurt my "grade" on the whole anger thing. This isn't an "acceptable" post just cause this guy's on your side of the Tiber is it?

1,407 posted on 10/19/2001 5:40:08 PM PDT by IMRight
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To: IMRight
I think my response to Iowegian takes care of the few relevant points you make.

How so? It only acknowledges you problem with attachments to objects, it doesn't refute them. As for Havoc's post, two of use have already objected. BTW, the apostle Paul used some rather strong and direct language himself in the NT, did he not?

1,410 posted on 10/19/2001 5:47:44 PM PDT by Iowegian
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To: IMRight
What is your purpose on these threads? Do you suppose that you are a Christian trying to save people who profess a belief in Christ but are lacking in some regard? How does this type of language when refering directly to Christ achieve that goal. The Gospel can be an offense to those who have not ears to hear... You, sir are just offensive.

Offensive. We'll see what's offensive here. Tell me, in all seriousness - do you think the refuse of the Lord would be holy? If it is not, then why? It may not be a pretty argument, and it wasn't intended to be pretty, but you want to play with the word. Let's go at it. For the sake of the argument, Fecal matter is now a *widget*. Why is the widget to be held in less esteem than the bones people kiss, the garments people kiss, The huge brass and glass vile of dried food coloring and water that turns into hydrated blood trick that people kiss,.... What makes the widgett less holy? Why is it not to be reveared and kept as an holy item - a relic for people to be 'healed' by.

For those of you with a weak constitution, I apologize. The intent was not to gross anyone out. It was to make a vivid and harsh point. I merely applied to the *widget* the same type of practices with some elaboration, that 'blessed' things meet with at the hands of catholics. I'll not repeat the argument. But, can any honestly think of anything even close that makes the point?

1,415 posted on 10/19/2001 6:03:45 PM PDT by Havoc
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