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My Complete Whackjob Nutbag theory on white powders and anthrax
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Posted on 10/12/2001 12:31:19 PM PDT by francisandbeans
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To: francisandbeans
...I wonder if dust masks can capture anthrax spores? Not he usual sort of chief dust masks (they may catch a lot, but not all). Hepafilter N95 masks are probably sufficient- at least they are good for tuberculosis mycobacteria, which are roughly the same size. Also, the spores are probably NOT pure cultures- they are mixed with some carrier powder (Lactose? Cornstarch?)for disemination. The carrier powder is relatively easy to filter out.
BUT (and this is a BIG "but") unless you are wearing the mask at the time of exposure, and you carry out careful personal hygiene (especially handwashing!), there is really no point in bothering to buy any sort of mask.
To: RANGERAIRBORNE
"CHEAP" dust masks, not "Chief". What was I thinking????
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To: francisandbeans
I don't beleive that ALL the white powder envelopes that have been popping up NECESSARILY are dummies. I theorize that SOME have anthrax in them and that we are purposely not being told that they do for fear of a panic (worse than what we have now). The step grandaughter of Stevens said that the feds were playing down her step grandfather's ailment. AMI says that the locals were doing the same. The disclosure of the cases that have been confirmed have all been either late at night or on the weekend when people will not naturally hang around the water cooler to discuss it. The White Powder at NBC today was found to not have anthrax in it. That can't be true since the person contracted it. AMI now says that the stuff came in the mail. Mailroom employees were exposed. It doesn't make sense that ALL the other white powder cases are simply false alarms. SOME must also be legit. (Unless this is domestic terrorists we're talking about). Watch your TV news this weekend. I'm betting (and am more than willing to eat crow if I'm wrong) that there will be a lot of anthrax cases "diagnosed" this weekend in the same places that the "white powder" showed up this week. That way it'll give time for the population to get used to it before work starts Monday morning.
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posted on
10/12/2001 1:05:03 PM PDT
by
Loopy
To: ctdonath2
the terrorists will be attacking one of a host of other under-protected fear-generating spots Antrax is a poor choice for a weapon of mass distruction. It has been used well in this situation as a weapon of mass hysteria.
If terrorists choose to kill a great number of people (and I'm not conviced that that is their goal), they will use an infectious disease -- like Small Pox. Small Pox is a CDC nightmare.
Small Pox vaccinations stopped many years ago. Most young people would be entirely unprotected. The medical community is unsure whether the vaccinated masses would be resistant to newer strains or even to the original strain. Not having the disease around for people to fight off has brought the efficacy of the vaccination into question.
Distribution of Small Pox would be easily accomplished, and would produce an pandemic.
To: browardchad
They've been sending their kids to school here regularly for the last 40 years. They're bound to get a feel for it.
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posted on
10/12/2001 1:07:59 PM PDT
by
SoDak
To: francisandbeans
Man I am so disappointed in you. I was really looking forward to a great "whackjob nutbag" theory, and all I got was this rather reasonable speculation.
I'm heading over to one of those "David Rockefeller Rules the World for the Illuminati" threads. I'm sure they won't let me down.
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posted on
10/12/2001 1:08:05 PM PDT
by
dead
To: francisandbeans
I hate to burst your bubble beans, but you need to go up to the 30,000 foot level and get the big picture.
Do you really think postal workers will happily sort mail containing potential anthrax or even fake powder and then deliver it every day for the next 3 months without freaking out?
If we assume that CDC/FBI whoever decides white powder is a potential threat, they will figure out equipment, dogs, what have you to "sniff" every package, envelope, etc. at every postal collection station. If postal employees believe that there is a potential for antrax to be in the mail, they will demand to work in full body contamination suits to pick up the mail and sort it. I would expect nothing less of anyone.
OK, so we can say that if white powder envelopes are a threat, the internet email traffic will soon replace regular mail, which will grind to a halt. Therefore there will not be a need for massive use of antiboitics etc. The mail will not be delivered as you envision.
Sorry, but your theory doesn't pencil out by my way of thinking.
To: dead
while you are there, can you see if any of these "in the know" folks can tell me what Rockerfeller has in store for my stock portfolio?
To: Jack Barbara
"What was available locally was packed up last week and sent to the CDC. Big Brother will make the determination who is and who is not treated." Precisely why incidents of this type will be down played. People might start wondering why the "common defense" part of the govt. bargain hasn't been tended to.
To: Loopy
that way it'll give time for the population to get used to it You know Loopy, I think something and ten minutes later, generally, you have posted it! This is precisely what I think they are doing. Baby stepping us to the brink...
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posted on
10/12/2001 1:10:17 PM PDT
by
riri
To: francisandbeans
Pretty logical, except I don't understand why they would not put the Anthrax in every package. I mean, they want to kill as many Americans as they can and frighten the rest of. If they can put Anthrax in some, why not all? That would create even more fear and terror.
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posted on
10/12/2001 1:10:36 PM PDT
by
GLDNGUN
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To: francisandbeans
If you are right (and I think you are) I actually take it as a good sign. If they had a truck load of anthrax spores then they would have dropped it over a major city with a crop duster. At the very least, they would not bother with fake powder envelopes - they would be mailing anthrax spores to all the media and governmental offices, national and local. The fact that they need to send out fake anthrax indicates to me that they have a very limited supply of the real stuff. At least, that's what I'm hoping.
To: Robert357
I don't understand what you are saying...the stoppage of the mail is contained in the theory up there. Stoppage or slowdown of the mail has many desired effects. Death is not the goal in this phase. Panic and antibiotic distribution is.
To: Harley_hog
Yeah Harley, we're all really slow up here in the frozen wasteland, so please don't type fast.
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posted on
10/12/2001 1:12:38 PM PDT
by
SoDak
To: aomagrat
I would like to know if there are any return addresses on these envelopes, and where they are postmarked from Well, if they were smart AND cheap, the return address would be the same as the delivery address, so even if it got returned for insufficient postage, it would go to the proper destination.
To: riri
The other day I heard Tommy Thomson(sp?)of HHS on FOXNEWS state that the gov't had enough Cipro for 200,000.
With the way the meds are being grabbed up, I wonder how true any number they give will be.
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posted on
10/12/2001 1:13:05 PM PDT
by
callisto
To: GLDNGUN
My guess would be in hopes of copycats. That and they want CDC chasing thier tail, and for the public to lose faith in thier ability to handle it. Anthrax is tough stuff to handle, my guess is that the anthrax is coming from one or two cell members and other members are mailing out the dummy packs to keep CDC on wild goose chases.
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