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To: Matchett-PI
GIVE ME A BREAK!!!! "

You could also use a reading lesson and one in humility.

53 posted on 10/13/2001 4:25:00 PM PDT by ex-snook
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To: RnMomof7
Another difference between Covenant theology and dispensational theology is in regard to "The place of eternal destiny for God's people":

In covenant theology, we believe that God has but one place for his people, since he has but one people, one plan, and one plan of salvation. His people will be in his presence for eternity.

In dispensational theology there is disagreement regarding the future state of Isreal and the church. Many believe that the church will sit with Christ on his throne in the New Jerusalem during the millennium as he rules over the nations, while Isreal will be the head of the nations on earth.

Another difference is in regards to "The birth of the church":

In covenant theology we believe that the church existed prior to the New Terstament era, including all the redeemed since Adam. Pentecost was not the beginning of the church, but the empowering of the New Testament manifestation of God's people.

Dispensationalists believe that the church began on the day of Pentecost and did not exist in history until that time. The church, the body of Christ, is not found in the Old Testament, and the Old Testament saints are not a part of the body of Christ.

We differ on "The purpose of Christ's first coming", too:

In covenant theology, we believe that Christ came to die for our sins and to establish the New Isreal, the New Testament manifestation of the church. This continuation of God's plan placed the church under a new and better covenant, which was a new manifestation of the same Covenant of Grace. The kingdom that Jesus offered was the present, spiritual, and invisible kingdom. (Some covenantialists ... esp. postmillennialists... also see a physical aspect to the kingdom).

Dispensationalists believe that Christ came to establish the messianic kingdom. Some dispensationalists believe that this was to be an earthly kingdom in fulfillment of the Old Testament promises to Isreal. If the Jew's had accepted Jesus' offer, this earthly kingdom would have been immediately established. Other dispensationalists believe that christ did establish the messianic kingdom in some form in which the church participates but that the earthly kingdom awaits the second coming of Christ to the earth. That Christ always intended the cross before the crown. More following.

54 posted on 10/13/2001 4:58:49 PM PDT by Matchett-PI
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To: ex-snook
Re: #53:"You could also use a reading lesson.."

Try this "reading lesson". Only a "dictator" could comply with this request:

"Mr. President, would you consider putting prayer back in the schools and letting us pray at social functions? Could we pray in restaurants and could we have reminders of the Lord God? Can we put a crib back on our lawns and not be afraid of being ridiculed? Mr. President, would you consider having prayer back in the schools? Would you consider taking that horrible law with permission to kill, to terrorize the innocent? ...But would you consider, saying no more abortion is allowed in this country?"

If the hearts and minds of the "majority" of American citizens aren't in agreement with what that woman wants President Bush to do, whose fault is that??? His???

It is the fault of the so-called "spiritual leaders" who claim to speak for God, but who are nothing but religious left-wing hirelings and soothsayers.

If the people in a so-called "Christian" nation are immoral/a-moral ... the blame can be laid right at the door of the so-called Christian churches and seminaries , most of which have become feminized right along with all of our other once-great institutions.

56 posted on 10/13/2001 5:49:32 PM PDT by Matchett-PI
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