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US puts squeeze on Israel
Guardian Unlimited ^ | 10/12/01 | Ewen MacAskill and Suzanne Goldenberg

Posted on 10/11/2001 7:08:53 PM PDT by gohabsgo

The US is to make a determined effort to force Israel to enter into peace negotiations with the Palestinians, fearing that the west is in danger of losing the propaganda war with Osama bin Laden.

In an attempt to address one of the main Muslim grievances, President, George Bush will use all the financial and political muscle at his disposal to push the Israelis and Palestinians to the negotiating table.

Mr Bush, whose patience with the Israeli prime minister, Ariel Sharon, has finally snapped, is drawing up a detailed plan to be published in the next few weeks in the hope of finally resolving 53 years of conflict.

But Mr Sharon, whose camp has been unnerved by the development, will not be moved easily, and the scene is set for a gigantic battle of wills. Tony Blair, who returned to London last night from a two-day visit to the United Arab Emirates, Oman and Egypt, highlighted a gnawing anxiety in the US and Britain.

Only five days after the bombing of Afghanistan began, Mr Blair made the extraordinary admission that the west was in danger of losing the propaganda war in Muslim states. He said: "One thing becoming increasingly clear to me is the need to upgrade our media and public opinion operations in the Arab and Muslim world. There is a need for us to communicate effectively."

Bin Laden electrified parts of the Muslim world within hours of the first bombs landing on Afghanistan by releasing a video in which he tried to polarise the conflict between the west and Islam, focusing especially on the Israeli-Palestinian crisis. A senior aide to Mr Blair conceded that the broadcast had found a receptive audience in the Middle East.

The west's biggest worry is the dangerous schism between Arab leaders, who basically support the west and are appalled by Bin Laden, and sections of their people to whom he has become a potent symbol of defiance.

Acknowledging this, Mr Blair said: "All moderate, sensible parts of Arab opinion know that it is right that we are acting in Afghanistan and support that. But they do point out to us that they have a general problem with their own people, that we have lost interest in the peace process. It is a perception we need to counter."

In a series of interviews in the region and a signed article offered to Arab newspapers - all part of Downing Street's new battle for public opinion - Mr Blair stressed the urgent need to "convince people that we are sincere in our desire" to get the Middle East peace process back on track. Central to that is the new US thinking, which Saudi Arabia and Egypt are enthusiastically backing. It is based on proposals on the table when the Israelis and Palestinians met in January at Taba in Egypt, the closest they have ever come to agreement. It envisages Jerusalem as the shared capital of Jewish and Palestinian states.

The ideas, which were to be announced in a speech by the US secretary of state, Colin Powell, that was postponed because of the September 11 attack, are expected be revealed formally later this month.

Leaks in the American and Israeli press are causing tremors of nervousness around Mr Sharon, even though US diplomats say the proposals could change before they are publicly aired. "This government is not going to divide Jerusalem. Period," Mr Sharon's spokesman Raanan Gissin said. "Jerusalem will remain the capital of the Jewish people."

Mr Sharon will visit Washington next month to press his case, Israel Radio reported yesterday. He is known to be angry that Mr Powell consulted Saudi Arabia and Egypt but not Israel when he drafted his speech.

Palestinian officials lauded the idea of a "viable homeland" - seen as an improvement on Mr Bush's call for a Palestinian state.

Revealing the nervousness of Arab governments, it emerged yesterday that a tentative plan to include Saudi Arabia on Mr Blair's Middle East itinerary was scrapped at the last minute.

The Saudi government is fearful of Islamic fundamentalist opinion in the kingdom. The London paper Asharq al-Awsat quoted "informed sources" in London as saying the kingdom told Mr Blair that it could not receive him because the leadership was sensitive about its role and position in the Islamic world.

Downing Street played it down, insisting that the visit was not logistically possible.


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To: Bob Burnett
I used to be anti-semitic
81 posted on 10/11/2001 9:15:01 PM PDT by marbren
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To: Seti 1
I think there is a very paranoid bent about that way you perceive Israel that is unhealthy and prevents you from seeing things clearly.

Israel does not tell us to "fall in line". Israel, like every sovereign nation, has a right to self defense. As a part of that self-defense, she has equipped herself with nuclear weapons.

Israel does not blackmail us with those nukes. The simple fact is that everyone know that the destruction of Israel will likely mean a nuclear strike on the richest deposits of oil on earth. Contaminated oil is not in the USA's interest. So it's not blackmail that empowers this relationship, it is mutual self interest. The Arab states are the aggressors, have been for 50 years. The USA knows that Israel is afraid of being overrun, and knows that if she is overrun it will be bad for us. So, we protect her with a little money and some diplomacy to keep that oil flowing.

Note that Egypt gets 2/3rd of what Israel gets, which only goes to prove that the purpose of our relationship is stability and nothing else. All sides have enough power to destroy each other, which we hope is just enough to prevent either side from actually trying.

83 posted on 10/11/2001 9:22:28 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: OldWhig
Funny. You really would like to see the U.S. become allies with *errorist/Arab countries, wouldn't you? Why is that, Seti?

I would like to see the US be on friendly terms with as many nations as possible. I would like to see us stamp out *errorism everywhere with the help of as many others as possible, the only way it can be done. I'm in full support and agreement with the President on this matter and hope to remain so.

I would like to avoid war with 1.25 billion muslims when I can see no US interest in such a war. I say again, no US interest. I don't give a damn per dozen for Israel's interests. Despite twenty years of the media's efforts at equating Arabs and *errorists I do not equate the two for the simple reason that most Arabs are not *errorists and many *errorists are not Arabs. See the logic?

* For some silly reason I can't get several words to print, among them the most-often used word of the day. So add a t where you see the *.

85 posted on 10/11/2001 9:28:04 PM PDT by Seti 1
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To: gohabsgo
I do hope and pray that Israel will finally realize that billions in US support and the enormous sacrifice the US military are about to make, make it incumbent on them to compromise.

Do you mean that the US should compromise and return half of California and Texas to our Mexican neighbors ? Is that what you hope and pray for ?

86 posted on 10/11/2001 9:29:13 PM PDT by a_witness
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To: gohabsgo
"US puts squeeze on Israel"

Since the CIA-trained "Palestinian" police/snipers arrived in the ancient Jewish homeland the CFR 'peace-plan' has been in full swing.

87 posted on 10/11/2001 9:30:58 PM PDT by God_isa_Jew
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
What do you suppose Jesus would have said to anyone who had tried to convert HIM from Judaism?

"I am the way, the truth and the life. No man comes to the Father except through me."

88 posted on 10/11/2001 9:31:35 PM PDT by Objective Reality
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To: marbren
I used to be anti-semitic

Being anti-Zionist is not the same as being anti-Semitic. That is just more Zionist propaganda. You’ve been completely and thoroughly conned. I’ve never been anti-Semitic. I don’t hate Semites of any kind.

90 posted on 10/11/2001 9:42:06 PM PDT by Fred25
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To: Objective Reality
Paul said it well in Christ there is neither Greek nor Jew neither male nor female.
91 posted on 10/11/2001 9:42:34 PM PDT by kansas_flatlander
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To: marbren
Look, 6,000 American have just been murdered by terrorists, and Zionists are trying to co-opt this great tragedy to promote their own selfish cause. Wake up before it’s too late!
92 posted on 10/11/2001 9:43:55 PM PDT by Fred25
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To: gohabsgo
I think it's time the US recognized that Yassar Arafat and his henchmen ARE TERRORISTS and go after them!
93 posted on 10/11/2001 9:45:26 PM PDT by brat
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To: Fred25
I'm not worried. I place my trust in Jesus Christ.
94 posted on 10/11/2001 9:47:08 PM PDT by marbren
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To: truthandlife
This is Bush's biggest mistake. If this story is not a bunch of propaganda, then it will be the downfall of America. God will not stand for it and the Israelis are God's people.

“I will bless those who bless you and I will curse those who curse you.” Genesis 12:3

Amen

95 posted on 10/11/2001 9:47:14 PM PDT by The Bard
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To: marbren
The Bible tells us that the whole world will turn on Israel during the end times. Satan wants to destroy Israel to show that God does not keep his promises....Hey Satan! GOD KEEPS HIS PROMISES!!!

In other words....Hay Satan, the bottomless pit is a real B#%CH

97 posted on 10/11/2001 9:55:19 PM PDT by The Bard
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To: OldWhig, Fred25
What's the point of being an Anti-Zionist now? How is it any different from being anti-Japanese or anti-Kuwaiti? Would anyone say "I have nothing against the Japense people I just think they don't deserve to have a country". Why is such an idea absurd when referring to the Japanese but entertained for the Jews?

Moreover, what do these anti-zionists propose? That the Jews up and scatter themselves around the world? Do anti-zionists advocate invading Israel and changing the country? It's just plain silly to be an anti-zionist.

98 posted on 10/11/2001 9:55:38 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Objective Reality
Change your screen name, obj. Your answer reeks of your own subjectivity.
99 posted on 10/11/2001 9:55:57 PM PDT by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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