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To: SoothingDave
I don't think our identities will be completely gone, but they will be radically changed. All of the bad will be gone. We will gladly serve forever at the throne, at the wedding feast. People who ask if they will be married, if their favorite dog will be there, etc. really don't understand that such things were designed to bring a shadow of God's bliss to us on earth. Marriage was the union of two souls, in Heaven all souls will be united. Any wonderful emotion you can think of will be as nothing compared to the joy we will experience there.

I guess that my conception of Heaven is different than yours. I agree that it will be beyond what we can comprehend. But I think we are fundamentally still "who we are" (only perfected), to the point that we will want to continue in relationship with those we loved in this life. Could you be happy in Heaven without your wife? Your daughter? If animals are in Heaven, it will be because their presence adds to our joy.

We will be however, surrounded by God, enveloped by God, embraced by God.

And we can have this relationship with God right now. This is what Jesus means when he says "the kingdom of God is at hand". We don't need to wait for Heaven to enjoy this closeness with the Father.

13 posted on 10/11/2001 11:19:55 AM PDT by malakhi
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To: angelo
But I think we are fundamentally still "who we are" (only perfected)

Agreed.

to the point that we will want to continue in relationship with those we loved in this life. Could you be happy in Heaven without your wife? Your daughter?

I didn't mean to imply that our loved ones wouldn't be there. (I think you know that) It's just that, like I said, there is a special union of souls between man and wife. Likewise among the man and wife and the soul they helped bring into this world.

In Heaven we will have this special bond, this special union of souls with everybody.

In a place of perfect love how could we love "our" family more than we love anyone else?

If animals are in Heaven, it will be because their presence adds to our joy.

I agree with that. I was taught that we will have no need for such things because we will already be perfectly fulfilled being with God. But I am willing to be flexible here. So many people are expecting to see their pets there. And God is their Creator as well, why wouldn't they be at the throne?

SD

15 posted on 10/11/2001 11:30:44 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: angelo
Then again, my cat is so happy with his life here, keeping the yard safe from small mammals. Since his hunting is his true nature, would he be happy where "the cat lies down with the chipmunk"?

SD

16 posted on 10/11/2001 11:32:50 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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