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To: RnMomof7
,roseries, icons,relics,repetive prayer (as the heathan do)

Come on, Mom, you can do better than this. Why not advise on organs, strained glass and flowers in the Church? As for repetive prayer, this would prohibit the Lord's Prayer or any reciting of learned Scriptual verses. There is a reason why Quakerism us nott the normal force of Christianity.

363 posted on 10/20/2001 10:19:03 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: RobbyS
"Come on, Mom, you can do better than this. Why not advise on organs, strained glass and flowers in the Church? "

I can't remember the last time I saw someone on their knees praying to a stained glass window,or putting fresh cut flowers on a pedestal and marching down the street with the crowds screaming.

Praying the organ stopped years ago.. It was just to cumbersome to carry all those organs strung to a chain in your pocket. And forget about hanging them from the rear view mirror..

366 posted on 10/20/2001 2:45:10 PM PDT by Joshua
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To: RobbyS
,roseries, icons,relics,repetive prayer (as the heathan do)

Come on, Mom, you can do better than this. Why not advise on organs, strained glass and flowers in the Church? As for repetive prayer, this would prohibit the Lord's Prayer or any reciting of learned Scriptual verses. There is a reason why Quakerism us nott the normal force of Christianity.

Hi Robby..thought ya were lost...just waiting to come back and get me in a weak moment huh?*grin*

Ok I will try do better ."I am the Lord they God,I will have no other gods before me",Now read this well Robby

Exodus20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth:

20:5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me;</font color>

On Prayer:

Matthew 6:7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.
Matthew 6:9 "This, then, is how you should pray: "`Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name,

This is HOW you should pray Robby,not what you should pray...

The icons in the Catholic Church grieve God..they take away from His glory..people kneel before them,light candles to them,put flowers in front of them..

Gods word specifically forbids icons..period..there are no exceptions.He is who is worthy..of all praise of all honor of all glory..

I believe that stained glass windows fall into that too Robby..Icons..

I note you did not copy my reference to the "unbloody sacrifice of Calvery"From the pen of the man you claim fathered the church

1 Peter 3:18 For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit,

Once for all Robby..no "unbloody sacrifice" that too is a repetive "prayer"

Again from Peter 1 Peter 1 18 For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers,
19 but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect.

Salvation is in the shed blood Robby...the "unbloody sacrifice is a lie..the only sacrifice God reconizes is a bloody one..ask Cain..ask Abraham.There is no "unbloody sacrifice" that is pleasing to God!

Hebrews 13:12 And so Jesus also suffered outside the city gate to make the people holy through his own blood.

Jesus Christ,fully God and fully man was the only acceptible sacrifice for my sin..for your sin..no unbloody sacrifice..no repetive prayer, no icons or stained windows...only the Blood of My God could pay my debt..and for that He deserves all my praise and all my Glory..He should not be asked to share it with roseries and saint and masses...He is King of King ,and Lord of Lords

John 19:30 When he had received the drink, Jesus said, "It is finished." With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.

367 posted on 10/20/2001 9:04:51 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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