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The point is that Jesus tells them to go to "the church." The command is not qualified. Jesus obviously means His Church. His Church, which Scripture calls "the pillar and foundation of truth," cannot exist in many places with conflicting teachings. Jesus had to be speaking of a clearly discernable church.

"Jesus had to be speaking of a clearly discernable church."

I agree. The Church that looks like the 1st Century Church. I have no problem discerning it.

"The point is that Jesus tells them to go to "the church." "

Many on this thread have shown in Scripture that the Church is the body of believers. You keep insisting it has to be a "discernable" body.

I don't understand how you can't discern people as believers.

You have yet to show any biblcal proof backing your view that Rome is the Church.

"His Church, which Scripture calls "the pillar and foundation of truth," cannot exist in many places with conflicting teachings"

You use this as an example. Scripture clearly shows you to be wrong. Jesus writing to the 7 Churches in Revelation show us 7 Churches in 7 locations with different teachings. Paul wrote to Corinth, another church in a different location, correcting them. Paul also talks of division

" Phil 4:2-3 2 I plead with Euodia and I plead with Syntyche to agree with each other in the Lord. 3 Yes, and I ask you, loyal yokefellow, help these women who have contended at my side in the cause of the gospel, along with Clement and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the book of life. (NIV)

1 Cor 1:10 10 I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought. (NIV) "

Even though Paul is asking for unity, we see by his writings that it wasn't always that way.

We know that division will be punished , Jesus tells us this in his letters to the churches, but to claim that the church can't exist in different locations with different teachings is just not true.

You want us to believe that only a specific body of men have the authority to interpret Scripture. (Magisterium)For this to be true you would have to prove that they have interpreted the Bible without fault from the beginning and have not changed. They wouldn't get the truth at different times. They would know from the start.

You can't do this. History shows the teachings have changed in Rome through the years. I know the RC claims the truth "evolves" to cover for the mistakes they have made.

This is absurd. If you have the authority and the power of the Spirit to do this it should have been right from the beginning.

At this time I would like to call Galileo to the stand!.

you claim the Catholic Church has the authority. When we ask you who gave them that authority, you reply, the Catholic church. You can give no other reason. All scripture you quote to back your arguments have to be translated with the idea RC is the authority,but you don't prove it