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To: Joshua
We have to understand that the Word of God is not enough, we need the traditions of man to see the whole picture.

Not exactly. Catholics have Scripture, Tradition, and Magesterium (authoritative teachings of the Church). Of course, this is Scriptural. Sacred Tradition is supported by the passage that says that more has been revealed than has been written down. And authoritative Church teaching (the Magisterium) is supported by the passage that calls the Church "the pillar and foundation of truth."

Without authoritative teaching and Scriptural interpretation, each man is left to interpret Scripture on his own, leading to error, conflict and disunity, in opposition to Christ's Scripturally-expressed desire that his followers be one.

324 posted on 10/18/2001 6:04:26 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: Aquinasfan
Without authoritative teaching and Scriptural interpretation, each man is left to interpret Scripture on his own, leading to error, conflict and disunity, in opposition to Christ's Scripturally-expressed desire that his followers be one.

What makes you believe that those "men" taught or interpreted the scriptures correctly? Why do you believe that what they..or any man writing a commentary is by its nature inspired?The Holy Spirit was promised to all belivers not just the "church fathers".

329 posted on 10/18/2001 7:45:14 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Aquinasfan; Jerry_M; Joshua; RnMomof7; Mark17
Not exactly. Catholics have Scripture, Tradition, and Magesterium (authoritative teachings of the Church). Of course, this is Scriptural. Sacred Tradition is supported by the passage that says that more has been revealed than has been written down. And authoritative Church teaching (the Magisterium) is supported by the passage that calls the Church "the pillar and foundation of truth."
These things I write unto thee, hoping to come unto thee shortly, but if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou ought to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.
For this passage to mean what you want it to mean, you must change it to say: ...the pillar and source/intrepretation of the truth. It does not. In fact, you are reading a spiritual mountain out of this passage. God is the only authoritative teacher of the Truth. You are running away with scripture without ever checking to see what else the Bible has to say about Truth:
Sanctify them through Thy truth: Thy Word is truth.

Lead me in Thy truth and teach me, for Thou art the God of my salvation; on Thee do I wait all the day.

Behold, Thou desirest truth in my inward parts; in the hidden part Thou shalt make me to know wisdom.

Teach me Thy way, O LORD; I will walk in Thy truth; unite my heart to fear Thy name.

And yet we know that the RC church cannot be the ultimate authority of the truth:
841 The Churches relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; those profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day,"

Jesus said unto him, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but having itching ears, they shall heap to themselves teachers in accordance with their own lusts. And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned toward fables.
332 posted on 10/18/2001 8:54:00 AM PDT by CCWoody
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