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To: RnMomof7; The Bard; Mark17; CCWoody; nmh
To get back to my "invisible church" argument.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you folks generally believe that Christ founded an "invisible church," or an invisible church of those who "confess Jesus as personal Lord and Savior."

I have pointed out the passage in which Jesus tells his followers to take their disagreements "to the church" after they have taken their disagreements to "several witnesses" without satisfaction.

I also assume that you believe that "the church" mentioned in this passage is "the invisible church."

Now, suppose one of you members of the invisible church accuses a Catholic, a Christian who "accepts Jesus as Lord and Savior," another member of the invisble church, of propagating an heretical doctrine. To which invisible church should we go to settle our disagreement?

If a Baptist accuses a Calvinist of propagating an heresy, to which church should they go to settle their disagreement?

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It's obviously an impossible situation that Christ did not intend to create. He commanded his followers to settle their disagreements in His Church, a visible Church, the Church that he founded, the Church that the gates of hell would not prevail against and the Church that has been in existence since Pentacost.

If you know of any churches, other than the Catholic and Orthodox churches, that have been in continuous existence since Pentacost, please provide the evidence.

323 posted on 10/18/2001 5:43:09 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: Jerry_M
#323..want to answer for the Baptists among us?
326 posted on 10/18/2001 7:17:12 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Aquinasfan
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you folks generally believe that Christ founded an "invisible church," or an invisible church of those who "confess Jesus as personal Lord and Savior." I have pointed out the passage in which Jesus tells his followers to take their disagreements "to the church" after they have taken their disagreements to "several witnesses" without satisfaction. I also assume that you believe that "the church" mentioned in this passage is "the invisible church."

Yes Jesus founded the invisible Church,but there is also the visible church of Jesus Christ,which is catholic (small c) in nature.

That visible church includes wheat and tares that will grow together untill the final judgement,when the invisible church will be harvested and the tares cast into the lake of fire..

Now as much as you would like to believe that that the church that Jesus founded is called Roman Catholic,I do not see that written anywhere in the bible. The church discription in the NT seems much closer to my own church or Jerrys Baptist Church....I do not read in Acts of a pope, icons,roseries,incense,robes,or a mass...those Aquinasfan are the acts of man ,not God..

328 posted on 10/18/2001 7:39:50 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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