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To: RobbyS
How is it that you can't understand that in assuming flesh , God lowered himself? In art the angel is shown on bended knee before the Virgin, even though he was the messenger of God.This is the paradox of the Incarnation: that God becomes man.

That is true he is Robby,I had never really thought about that before..is there a scripitual basis for that or do you think that it was artistic license?

Did Woody address the humanity of Jesus? He had to have a human,not a divine mom..she had to bring to the conception the human being.

Did you know that according to Jewish tradition sin is passed from the father to the child,the mother does not pass the sin.That is why it is call the sin of Adam..because it comes through the man,not the woman.

Jesus did not need a "sinless " mother..He had a Perfect ,Holy and sinless Father..thus He was born human,but spiritually Holy,Perfect and without sin.....the spotless lamb

Mary just the vessel,nothing more

Matthew 12

47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

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161 posted on 10/15/2001 3:13:32 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; RobbyS
Did you know that according to Jewish tradition sin is passed from the father to the child,the mother does not pass the sin.That is why it is call the sin of Adam..because it comes through the man,not the woman.

More than tradition; taught by God. Doc covered this very well several months ago.

Mary just the vessel,nothing more

Blessed to be sure:

And it came to pass, as He spoke these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice and said unto Him, "Blessed is the womb that bore Thee and the breasts which Thou hast sucked." But He said, "Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the Word of God and keep it."
The message: keep it in perspective!
162 posted on 10/15/2001 3:19:53 PM PDT by CCWoody
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To: RnMomof7
I was wondering when Semarimis....Queen of Babylon..Queen of Heaven...so called the virgin Mary..all the same, would be pulled into this. Watch the Vatican guys, I keep warning you, every war has been a holy war. Not all who claim Christianity are christians, and it has given true believers a bad name. A holy war does not mean deeds done by christians. It means a war in the name of religion. As a believer I avoid religions like the plague. RELIGION AND POLITICS crucified the Son of God.
165 posted on 10/15/2001 3:24:15 PM PDT by Deanna Knapp
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To: RnMomof7
Mary just the vessel,nothing more The nativity stories make her a real personality, unlike Joseph, for instance. Luke especially presents her as the perfect Christian. So she received him, so we should receive him .
169 posted on 10/15/2001 4:29:26 PM PDT by RobbyS
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