Posted on 10/09/2001 8:21:36 PM PDT by Diago
That is true he is Robby,I had never really thought about that before..is there a scripitual basis for that or do you think that it was artistic license?
Did Woody address the humanity of Jesus? He had to have a human,not a divine mom..she had to bring to the conception the human being.
Did you know that according to Jewish tradition sin is passed from the father to the child,the mother does not pass the sin.That is why it is call the sin of Adam..because it comes through the man,not the woman.
Jesus did not need a "sinless " mother..He had a Perfect ,Holy and sinless Father..thus He was born human,but spiritually Holy,Perfect and without sin.....the spotless lamb
Mary just the vessel,nothing more
Matthew 12
47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
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More than tradition; taught by God. Doc covered this very well several months ago.
Mary just the vessel,nothing more
Blessed to be sure:
And it came to pass, as He spoke these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice and said unto Him, "Blessed is the womb that bore Thee and the breasts which Thou hast sucked." But He said, "Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the Word of God and keep it."The message: keep it in perspective!
When you can't refute, mock!
Amen!
Do you have a link in storage on doc's teaching on that I would be interested..as maybe would some others on the thread
PLEASE do not say day 5 of your novena..many of us do not want to or ever plan to return..pray for something or someone else!
Fifth Day
Today bring to Me THE SOULS OF THOSE WHO HAVE SEPARATED THEMSELVES FROM MY CHURCH
Most Merciful Jesus, Goodness Itself, You do not refuse light to those who seek it of You. Receive into the abode of Your Most Compassionate Heart the souls of those who have separated themselves from Your Church. Draw them by Your light into the unity of the Church, and do not let them escape from the abode of Your Most Compassionate Heart; but bring it about that they, too, come to glorify the generosity of Your mercy.
Eternal Father, turn Your merciful gaze upon the souls of those who have separated themselves from Your Son's Church, who have squandered Your blessings and misused Your graces by obstinately persisting in their errors. Do not look upon their errors, but upon the love of Your own Son and upon His bitter Passion, which He underwent for their sake, since they, too, are enclosed in His Most Compassionate Heart. Bring it about that they also may glorify Your great mercy for endless ages. Amen.
Shalom
Mary was the mother of God. Jesus listened to His mother at Cana and Jesus made her the mother of us all from the cross. That's good enough for me to ask her to ask Jesus.
...4-LOVE is the ONLY Reality...
...and GOD is LOVE.
Wana' buy an amulet? They're really cheep...
No, I prefer the New American Bible (Catholic). It's a more accurate translation. The KJV is notorious for it's typos for crying out load.
She was a special lady,no question.Scripture does show us more of her,no question.but I dont think I would use the word "perfect".She was humble and submissive.She was a great role model.
But Jesus said it best..any of us that do his will,that follow him have the same position that she did.."Who is my brother ,or my sister,or my mother?..."
BTW Two years ago I spent alot of time meditating on Joseph.What an awesome man of God.
Which means that only those who are Born of God will actually believe with saving faith:
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and every one that loveth Him that begot, loveth Him also that is begotten by Him.The tense of the verse is very clear. Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is [past tense] born of God. Everybody that believes has already been born of God. Unless this Spiritual event takes place, their is no possible way that a person can even see the Kingdom of God:
Jesus answered and said unto him, "Verily, verily I say unto thee, unless a man be born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God."Unless this Spiritual even takes place, their is no possible way that a person can even understand spirutual things:
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness unto him; neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.I'm not sure what you mean with the Calvinist remark about being elect and not deceived, but the scripture is clear that there is no such thing as self-election. If you are asking if I am sure that I am not decieved, then that I can answer.
If I understand the scripture you are running away with, I can say no:
When Jesus therefore saw His mother and the disciple standing by whom He loved, He said unto His mother, "Woman, behold thy son!" Then said He to the disciple, "Behold thy mother!" And from that hour, that disciple took her unto his own home.If you are looking to Mary for salvation, then you will be shocked when you die. And some of your Roman brethren were saying that Mary is not worshipped.
Did I guess the scripture correctly?
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