I pulled this from fox news, I feel that until the United Way gets it act together, Donations should be given to more stable charities. United Way is generally a liberal organization. Therefore, I think it's wrong for this website to show a link to the United Way website.
1 posted on
10/09/2001 3:22:54 PM PDT by
pulaskibush
(pulaskibush2@hotmail.com)
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United way is all screwed up, don't give them your money.
At this time the charities which seem to really help N.Y.C are as follows.
1) Red Cross.
2) NYC Firemen/Police fund
3) NYC victims family fund and
4) The Salvation Army, the rest are questionable
2 posted on
10/09/2001 3:33:35 PM PDT by
KQQL
To: pulaskibush
We cut off the United Way when the United Way cut off the Boy Scouts of America. USO is another good charity to contribute and you can also find a G.I. penpal there. www.uso.org Semper Fi, Mike
To: pulaskibush
The United Way STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN. Out here in Sacramento, the United Way STOPPED FUNDING FOR THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA! They do, however, believe in funding pro-homosexual, anti-family organizations. This is sickening when there are so many great organizations that do such great work. I hope Fox news pursues them like stink on sh--. For victory & freedom!!!
To: pulaskibush
Never give a penny to the United Way. They are a bunch of shake down artists. They try to get supervisors to intimidate employees (especially in local government) into contributing. One of the past big wigs was flying all around the country first class and drawing some monster salary. Remember, they support Planned Parenthood, but not the Boy Scouts. You figure it out.
To: pulaskibush
Give to the United Way?? I'll give to the United Way right after I dash off a check to OBL.
9 posted on
10/09/2001 3:47:01 PM PDT by
mombonn
To: pulaskibush
By the way, that man, William Aramony, was being paid more than $300,000 a year to run the United Way.You gotta be kidding me. Sounds like this bunch are nothing but money-grubbing middle men. I stopped giving to them when they slammed the BSA anyway. They'll never get another penny from me.
13 posted on
10/09/2001 3:56:36 PM PDT by
FlyVet
To: pulaskibush
Give to the United Way and they take a 20+% cut to then give it to a charity. Pretty good racket!
15 posted on
10/09/2001 3:58:51 PM PDT by
cinFLA
To: pulaskibush
I am the director of a small United Way in Ohio and believe me, I and my volunteer board of trustees, are far from liberal. Most United Way's are and their volunteers are very conservative. We oppose big government, believe in local control, DO NOT FUND PLANNED PARENTHOOD or GAY RIGHT ACTIVITIES and continue to strongly support the boy scouts. There are approximatelhy 2,000 UW's in the US, each and everyone is autonomous and run by local volunteers. Most belong to the United Way of America, (that's where Arimony was the Exec.) which is essentially a trade association, provides training opportunities, discounted supplies, national advertising etc. They have no say in who or who we don't fund, do not allocate any of their dues to agencies (such as planned parenthood)
I have been a lifelong conservative and freeper since 1998 and I really get frustrated when people speak out of their butts without researching the situation. I love Bill O'Rielly and was furious last night. I, as well as many other UW's, were also furious that the NY UW or UWA were unavailable for comment. Apparantly they will be on with him tonight.
Re: the UW September 11 fund. Before I accepted local donations to pass on (and we are passing 100% on, we consider these outside of our local campaign and there are no costs associated with it) I talked with the folks in NY. Obviously they are not only overwelmed with the task at hand responding to needs, but how to insure the funds are properly spent. A coalition was immediately formed including several trust funds and foundations. No one agency can just dispense the funds, which I feel totally appropriate. Think about the scandal if checks are immediately cut to families when it turns out they have over a million plus in insurance, or the sicko's who are faking that they have a dead relative. There are many issues more than just cutting checks to the victims like grief counseling and groups for the children. Maybe a grant will be given to an existing agency, but this is a service above and beyond what they might have been capable of doing without additional funds.
All I am saying is, give this a chance before jumping on the negative bandwagon. It is still so early to really assess then needs in NY, DC and for the airplane victims. It's been less than a month!
That being said, many freepers have ranted about the UW for years, and some for, what I consider, very legitimate reasons. There are some communities, where I to live and work which had cut out Boy Scouts or passed on dollars to Planned Parenthood, I would absolutely refuse to give.
What I ask is that you know your community and your UW, than make your choice. A long time contributor (and former board member and volunteer) came into my office a few weeks ago VERY upset because he understood that UW was against the boy scouts. I explained our position (which is we totally support them). He then said we should not be paying dues to UWA (which is MINIMAL, .7% of our $750,000 campaign). I explained that UWA is neutral on the whole subject as they are with anything and that we would not belong if they starting telling our community what we should or should not support. He then showed me a solititation for funds to support a legal battle in which it was IMPLIED that UNITED WAY was cutting out the Boy Scouts. Yes there are maybe 25 UW's that have cut funding, but that means 1750 continue to support them. Again know your facts and....yes..well freepers...flame on. I guess I asked for it.
If you have any specific questions re your community, feel free to freepmail me.
18 posted on
10/09/2001 4:02:51 PM PDT by
dutchess
To: pulaskibush
I have not given to the "United Way" since the Boy Scouts were targeted by them. We were "encouraged" where I worked to help them reach their "goal" - I checked which groups were supposed to get money from them and gave directly to the Boy Scouts and other groups I knew could use the money. I also quit that place of employment - eventually saw other things being done that I just couldn't stomach!!
21 posted on
10/09/2001 4:06:55 PM PDT by
vetswife
To: pulaskibush
Well the UNITED WaY has a ton of loot now...
how much does that Women make a year a the RED CROSS?
22 posted on
10/09/2001 4:07:01 PM PDT by
Mr.E
To: pulaskibush
Give to the United Way??
NO
To: pulaskibush
Don't forget the Marine Corps Scholarship Fund. They have almost zero overhead. They pay for scholarships for the children of service members killed in action. I hate to say it, but they're going to need the money.
Michael C. Wholley, Brigadier General, USMC(Ret)
Executive Director
Marine Corps Scholarship Foundation, Inc.
P. O. Box 3008
Princeton, New Jersey 08543-3008
29 posted on
10/09/2001 4:14:44 PM PDT by
Gumlegs
To: pulaskibush
I've always had problems with concepts like UW. All charities have bureaucracies (many seem to be made for the sole purpose of funding bureaucracies and employing friends and relatives. Jesse!
The UW is just another bureaucracy whose purpose is to mete out money to give to other charities. This is at least inefficient, if not plainly a scam. Why not give your bucks to the charity directly? Hand a wino a fiver? UWs recent talk about "no overhead" will be charged to moneys forwarded WTC charities is a direct ADMISSION of the redundancy of UW. Gee, how generous of them! UW is a kind of double taxation, a parasite wrapped in robes of rectitude. A charity scam par exemplar, making the Operation PUSH extortion racket appear to be small potatoes.
Ive met many UW operatives. I feel many are corporate board rejects, and UW is kind of a nepotisitic depository for types who don't fit in, can't cut it, or can't get with the corporate program, but who are bumped up into the UW bureaucracy.
Also disturbing is their taste for balls, parties, and other self-trumpeting events. Pride is taking in how much their companies (i.e., employees from bottom to top) donated, that is, forced to contribute.
30 posted on
10/09/2001 4:14:53 PM PDT by
Shermy
To: pulaskibush
Isn't United Way the anti-scout charity? I loathe America-haters and evil-doers...
To: pulaskibush
Did you hear O'Reilly's interview last week with the woman from the Red Cross? He had to ask her THREE TIMES how much money the Red Cross had taken in for 911 terrorist murders before she actually gave him a figure--she did not want to give a dollar figure! Then she added a bunch of crap afterwards about why they weren't dispensing the money to the families of the victims.
The interest alone on all this money they are keeping more than covers everything that has been distributed thus far.
This is an outrage!
To: pulaskibush
Seems like all of their money are going to the Football players who are in commericals for the United Way. I think as a whole it is not a good organization. If a few are good well thats wonderful but I will not give a penny to any organization that supports planned parenthood, and NAMBLA people. I'd rather spend give it to someone in need myself.
On a side note, I'm sure the Red Cross racked in a ton of money and did anyone else notice how many commericals they have been airing after the attacks. Its not like that money went to anyone in NYC or DC. They are probably spending it on their parties and orgies, it makes me sick of organizations plan to make money of tragedy.
38 posted on
10/09/2001 4:22:01 PM PDT by
Dengar01
To: pulaskibush
I stopped giving to the United Way many years ago when I learned how much money it skimmed off the top just for redirecting the funds to another charitable organization. Now I give the money directly to the charitable organizations of my choice, which increases the value of the donation by 10 to 15% depending upon the inefficiency of the local United Way.
To: pulaskibush
...NEVER!
..EVER!
Not Even for 70 Virgins!!
To: pulaskibush
The liberal cheating United Way will never see another dime of my money.
47 posted on
10/09/2001 4:30:43 PM PDT by
boycott
To: pulaskibush
I used to have to fight like mad every year to be the only one at work to pass on payroll deductions for United Way. They used to say, "we could be 100% givers!" and I'd respond, "more like 100% suckers!"
Besides the fact that much of the United Way has been hijacked by the left, what sense does it make to give to a group that wastes so much on (often unnecessary) overhead?
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