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To: winna
It was written by a utopian socialist, to promote socialism. It has been incredibly effective. Look at all the decent folks who have signed on to support it -- to demand it. But I will not.

I will not because I know what real patriotism and loyalty is. And it damn well isn't helped by mindless oath-taking to an icon. Respect for the flag, flying the flag these are good things. Swearing oaths to it is not good.

Rather than the socialist allegiance, it would be far better if the our kids recited daily the Preamble to the Constitution, or the first few paragraphs of the Declarartion. Both of those excellent writtings are enfused with our national ideals -- in clear form. A form that the kids will take into there heart.

People have added and modified Bellamy's Socialist Pledge, they claim those modifications make it truly American and patriotic. I hold that is not the case, and that we already have far better -- the Preamble and the Declartion -- short recitable passages to teach our children with.

Moreover we NEED to teach our children those forgoten ideals every day. They have been trumped by the cheaper flag pledge -- which was of course a goal of the socialists.

So decide, for yourself, the nation you want. A nation that mindlessly follows however waves the flag, or a nation committed and reaffirming the ideals of the Founders -- a nation able to repel flag-waving frauds, and uphold the Founding Princibles that are our nation's true glory and inhertitance.

74 posted on 10/09/2001 8:22:24 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
The pledge isn't to the piece of cloth, the pledge is to what it represents.
119 posted on 10/09/2001 11:55:15 AM PDT by TheRealLobo
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To: bvw
You keep calling it socialist. Please explain yourself. There's nothing socialist about it.
137 posted on 10/09/2001 2:05:21 PM PDT by driftless
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