The Crash After the Crash [The psychic fallout & emotional depression now felt by many NYers]

New York Magazine ^ | October 15, 2001 edition | Sarah Bernard

[summer]

"I kept walking," she says, "and he stopped. He said, 'I can't believe you're not going to look at it.' But I'd just had enough...."

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This is me, too. As a native New Yorker, I have thought about returning to NY right now, and seeing Ground Zero. But, the truth is this: I have no desire whatsoever to see it.

I prefer the skyline the way I remember it: with the WTC.

So, I don't want to go there. I've invited all my friends from NY to come to FL. They are coming. And, maybe staying. For good.

[sneakypete]

So, I don't want to go there. I've invited all my friends from NY to come to FL. They are coming. And, maybe staying. For good.

I hope not. There are already too damn many NY'ers living in the south already.Who the hell do you think voted for Goober? Let them stay up there in that socialist 3rd world cesspool they created and love so much. All they do when they move away is bring their gun-grabbing left-wing idiocy with them.

[Physicist]

So, sitting with her boyfriend at Nobu last Tuesday night,

It takes an Iron Chef to pull New York back up.

[concerned about politics]

First of all, what the heck is green tea ice cream???

The body always seeks balance.
A day of intense joy always has a day of tiredness after it.
If you eat a lot of acid type food, your body will react by becomming overly alkaline to compinsate for it.
That's why if you put tomato juice on dog food, the dogs urine doesn't kill the grass when he/she goes in your yard.
These folks have had an intense month, let alone a day.
Now is the time for the lull to set in. The body needs time to rebalance.
If it is not givin that time freely, it will always be out of balance.
A lot of rest is needed I think. Not only physically, but mentally.
I know it sounds heartless to say this, but they need to walk away for awhile, and put it out of their minds as much as possible.
Others may handle it better, so they don't have to worry about it.
Some people feel they have to carry the burdens of the world, but they need to know that burden is shared with all Americans. It's not all theirs.

[Cicero]

I stood in the street and saw fire coming out of the two plane-shaped holes in the Twin Towers about fifteen minutes after the second plane hit. I'm pretty good at controlling my emotions. I knew that it was a deliberate attack because both towers had been hit, and that many, many people had probably been killed, but I thought I could deal with it emotionally. I knew that there wasn't anything I could do personally to help and that stronger and younger people than I am would be helping people down the stairs. And I had to go to work and meet an undergraduate class. So I got on the subway uptown, met the class and dismissed it when no one was able to think about anything but the disaster, and hung around the office, since by that time the towers had horrifyingly collapsed and I couldn't return to my apartment.

But I am only now beginning to recover from the aftereffects of the shock. I've been through some dangerous moments in my life, including a couple of storms at sea in a sailboat, but this was certainly the most emotionally devastating. Maybe part of it was being displaced from my apartment for several weeks, but I believe this kind of terrible spectacle hits you at a deep level, and it takes a good long time to deal with it.

[ken5050]

They're depressed because Freddy Ferrer will be thenext Mayor of NYC.......and that thought is enough to send everyone running for the hills...

[Cicero]

It's one thing to be depressed by the event; it's another to run away from it.

And by the way, Florida is one of the epicenters of terrorist cells. That's where they did their training and made their plans. There are still a ton of Muslims down there. And there have been two suspicious anthrax poisonings.

This isn't something you can just turn your back on or move away from.

[concerned about politics]

I hope not. There are already too damn many NY'ers living in the south already.Who the hell do you think voted for Goober? Let them stay up there in that socialist 3rd world cesspool they created and love so much. All they do when they move away is bring their gun-grabbing left-wing idiocy with them.

Now ya dunnit. You've hurt my "self esteem."
Just a note....Upstate NY is conservative. Only the cities that have liberals packed together like sewer rats vote Democrat.
Unfortunately, NYC has more rats than the entire Upstate area.
Look at a map, and you'll see NYC is a small dot. ALL THOSE PEOPLE live in that little area.
I believe that's why the terrorist found it to be a good target for them.
The state is politically divided. North NY is Bush country. South NY is commie.
That doesn't mean I feel the attack was just. I still love them as people, and feel terrible, but "politically" speaking, I do not agree with them at all.
Give us up here a break, will ya?.

[walden]

"Give us up here a break, will ya?. "

I'll give you a break-- we are all New Yorkers now. I'm a Texan down in Texas, and the song "New York, New York" (you know, that the tv showed all the Broadway stars singing as a big group in the street) pops into my head at the oddest times.

[summer]

First of all, what the heck is green tea ice cream???

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Green tea ice cream, and, red bean ice cream, is as popular in Japan as chocolate and vanilla ice cream is here.

The green tea ice cream is smooth, a light green olive color, and tastes great. Try it the next time you go to a good Japanese restaurant! :)

[sneakypete]

Give us up here a break, will ya?.

Those of you who don't live in "The City" do have my sympathy,even though I understand Bubette! even won the majority fo the upstate votes.

[summer]

Re your post #5. Thank you for sharing your experience. I agree; it hits at a very deep level. And, most people have no idea what it means to New Yorkers to not be able to live as usual in their apartments. It's extremely unsettling.

[summer]

Re your post #7 -- I would choose FL any day in this particular time in our nation's history, and my friends in NY are packing now.

[lavaroise]

Well, yes, New Yorkers will go through a depression and will have 2 choices.

1. Either face up to Freeper reality that liberty is more important than their jobs or lives

2. Or somber into a stockholm's syndrome blaming America.

New Yorkers were already in deep need of shrinks anyhow, but I got to say we have to help these people be strong, because we don't want them to become like McCain, blaming America for a war that was brought by our enemy on our shore.

[concerned about politics]

Those of you who don't live in "The City" do have my sympathy,even though I understand Bubette! even won the majority fo the upstate votes.

Well, that's to be debated. The Lazio switches were broke in some places. The election committee was notified, but nothing became of it.
I think with Hillary being democrat, and Democrats having the art of voter fraud.......
Upstate questioned the whole thing. Something wasn't right. We should have asked for a recount, and the number of democrat dead people who actually voted.
It was sort of a "Hillary Gate" election, but the press said nothing, the election commettee did nothing.

[lavrenti]

I witnessed the attack, work on the northern border of the restricted zone and live next to a power plant. Dealing with the aftermath is an every day routine for my family. Depression exists, yes, however a resolve to live ones life seems to have taken effect and subsumed any bad feelings we have for the moment.

It is not denial. We know what happened. However, it is important for us to endure.

[Osinski]

At a distance even, the pall hangs in the air...the autumn festivals...people but no gaity. The sadness, the deeper understanding of our country at war, the kids, my kids and their anger and our anger. And yet in the midst of this, our daughter comes home alive with a song she has to write, she has to sing.

Here it is:

America Lives In Us

When the two towers crashed to the ground
there was such chaos and pain all around.
Tears sprung to our hearts and our eyes
What we all wanted to know was why.

Chorus:

Why is there fighting?
Why is there violence?
Why have these terrorists created such silence?
They tried to destroy us,
but we just say NO
America lives in us, didn't they know?

We lost some of our finest, it's so very sad
there were so many hereos we knew not we had.
We'll pull together. We'll make it through.
America, Land of the Red, White and Blue.

Chorus

Our country is strong, stronger than words.
America's free, haven't they heard?
They tried to destroy us,
but we just say NO
America lives in us, didn't they know?
America lives in us, don't they know?

Mary S. 9-13-01

Our children. The hope of the world.

[Timesink]

So, sitting with her boyfriend at Nobu last Tuesday night, Jennifer, 29, a former Internet executive, felt like she'd moved past her debilitating obsession with the disaster. But after green-tea ice cream, her boyfriend, a J.P. Morgan associate, wanted to look at ground zero.

I'm sorry, but I couldn't even make it past this sentence without vomiting. Eating green-tea ice cream at Nobu with her banker boyfriend and "feeling really down." Like, Puh-LEEZE! Why not GET A JOB, unemployed bimbo?

By the way, "former Internet executive" is Manhattan Beautiful Person slang for "secretary."

[summer]

Well, let's not be TOO compassionate here!

[MaeWest]

...My life is so good. Why," she wants to know, "am I so depressed?"

Poor baby is depressed. Could she be feeling guilt that the politicians/causes she has supported contributed to causing the situation? It is painful enough for all of us but there's got to be the extra burden of cognitive dissonance in the liberal mind.