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Judicial Watch Jumps On Record-Setting Bandwagon, Sues Barry Bonds and Major League Baseball
10/08/2001 | William Wallace

Posted on 10/08/2001 8:28:01 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez

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To: Luis Gonzalez
Siempre salud, Luis! Great parody!

And what a difference two years make. When I posted an article around Thanksgiving 1999 about Larry's "funny finances" as revealed on a publicly available IRS form (huge amounts spent for publicity vs. trivial amounts for the litigation filed; suspicious expenditures on a "Judicial Watch of Florida" and a residential condo there, etc.), the JW stalwarts came out en masse for the attack. Now it doesn't seem like Larry has a single acolyte on this site.

121 posted on 10/09/2001 12:51:18 PM PDT by Map Kernow
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To: JohnHuang2, MooCollins, Bryan, sirgawain, DeSoto bjs1779, Senator Pardek, Prince Caspian, Bonaparte
FYI.
122 posted on 10/09/2001 1:38:39 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Map Kernow
Did you come to any conclusions about "Judicial Watch of Florida?" That is the entity which brought the Donatao Dalrymple suit, among others. But it is Judicial Watch, Inc. which does the fund-raising and press releases, etc. What's up with that?

Who's condo is it? Is it one that Larry Klayman donated to JW? Klayman is a resident of Florida. Florida residents have to spend a certain number of days there each year to get favorable tax treatment.
123 posted on 10/09/2001 2:21:05 PM PDT by Iwo Jima
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To: Iwo Jima
Did you come to any conclusions about "Judicial Watch of Florida?" That is the entity which brought the Donatao Dalrymple suit, among others. But it is Judicial Watch, Inc. which does the fund-raising and press releases, etc. What's up with that?

Who's condo is it? Is it one that Larry Klayman donated to JW? Klayman is a resident of Florida. Florida residents have to spend a certain number of days there each year to get favorable tax treatment.

It didn't look like JWF had much activity before Elian besides owning the condo. I had no idea LK claimed to be a resident of Florida, especially since he has a place in the DC area, or so I'm told, and works out of the DC JW office.

Frankly, I stopped taking LK seriously two years ago. Before then, I had been a supporter and a donor (I still get JW fundraising stuff regularly). Now I don't know or care what's going on with LK and JW.

124 posted on 10/09/2001 2:38:35 PM PDT by Map Kernow
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To: Luis Gonzalez; William Wallace
I'm glad you identified the TRUE ENEMY of America as Larry Klayman...I just couldn't make up my mind WHO to despise these days!

I mean, Osama may have killed a few thousand people, but Larry Klayman is a REAL loser! Let's not EVER forget to concentrate on the HIGHER PRIORITIES of life!

(Hope you enjoyed MY little bit of "satire" there, gents...ahem! All's fair in luv 'n' laffs...smoochie-poos!!)

125 posted on 10/09/2001 3:12:57 PM PDT by Mercuria
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To: Mercuria
How true. They know where the bodys are. The arm chair 1/4er backs and keyboard warriors are out in full force!
126 posted on 10/09/2001 4:10:59 PM PDT by Scholastic
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To: William Wallace,Luis Gonzalez
Judicial Watch has yet to win an actual case. “Nonsense,” says Larry, “Judicial Watch has won a number of important victories. For instance, I recently peeled off a Pull ‘n Play sticker from a Burger King sandwich and won a BK Double Whopper Jr. That wasn’t just a fluke either: Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton won a large order of french fries the same day,” Klayman boasted.

OUCH. LOL! It's a kindness you're doing for a once sincere man who has gone astray, WW. (^:

I held out hope for LK until the end....the Peter Paul pardon for Clinton bribe lawsuit. Here's a man evading tax charges in Brazil, angry because he tried to buy off the Clintons with a Spago dinner, etc., and wasn't given a pardon. The case made Larry and PP look foolish, and gave the Clintons a chance to preen and discount Judicial Watch's previous efforts.

Larry got caught up in his own ego trip, IMHO, and lost the humility that's essential for focus and wisdom when pursuing a noble cause. What Larry needs is a friend like you, someone willing to tell him the truth and set him back on course.

127 posted on 10/09/2001 4:14:43 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Victoria Delsoul
I agree with Larry on this one Victoria! The game is now bumper ball instead of billiards due to manipulations. If they make the ball as hard as a golf ball, there will be a 162 homerun season someday. That is the crime of it in MO.
128 posted on 10/09/2001 5:11:59 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: Mercuria
"I'm glad you identified the TRUE ENEMY of America as Larry Klayman...I mean, Osama may have killed a few thousand people, but Larry Klayman is a REAL loser!"

Merc, don't be ridiculous! Larry isn't the enemy!

129 posted on 10/09/2001 5:33:43 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Scholastic
"The arm chair 1/4er backs and keyboard warriors are out in full force!"

I want to thank you for taking what precious little time you have in between bombing runs to post on this thread.

130 posted on 10/09/2001 5:43:34 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Mercuria
I mean, Osama may have killed a few thousand people, but Larry Klayman is a REAL loser! Let's not EVER forget to concentrate on the HIGHER PRIORITIES of life!

You mean like posting shrill xenophobic rants about illegal *Mexican* immigrants just hours after the September 11th attacks? Exploiting the WTC/Pentagon attacks to advance a political agenda against people who had nothing to do with terrorism?

Those "HIGHER PRIORITIES"?

131 posted on 10/09/2001 5:46:45 PM PDT by William Wallace
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Is there a hall of fame where all these lawyers are hanging?
132 posted on 10/09/2001 5:58:55 PM PDT by lds23
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Is there a hall of fame where all these lawyers are hanging?
133 posted on 10/09/2001 5:59:01 PM PDT by lds23
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Is there a hall of fame where all these lawyers are hanging?
134 posted on 10/09/2001 5:59:10 PM PDT by lds23
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Luis, kudos to you and William Wallace for conspiring to provide us this gem.

Uh-oh! Did I say "conspiring?" LOOK OUT! LARRY THE K'S GUNNING FOR YOU AND WILLIAM WALLACE!

135 posted on 10/09/2001 6:05:22 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Sorry I didn't see your reply(ies) till now.

You are not really interested in WHY I am critical of JW, you couldn't be,

Actually, I am! And you already gave me one good specific answer (i.e. you didn't like the "Bush Sr. business ties to bin Ladens" press release), and one more general answer (we "hated" x42, but now "a decent man got into the Oval Office"). So, I was satisfied.

What you wanted was for me to answer for all the people whop are critical of JW, impossible for me to do,

Here you are complaining that I had the gall to interpret your statement as answering "for all the people who are critical of JW". But then I go back and look at your post #106, and you sure do seem to be using the pronoun "we" rather than "I". Who is "we", then?

Am I to understand that you now pull back from your statements of post #106?

but once I made a statement closely resembling the statement that you have been fishing for, you smuggly proclaimed understanding, and huffed off.

I didn't "proclaim understanding" at all: I sighed. That doesn't mean I "understand".

Neither did I "huff off". It's just that I felt that by that point in the thread, there wasn't much of anything left to discuss. (Till this most recent post of yours, of course.)

You are damned near as intellectually dishonest as JW.

Wow, that's pretty intellectually dishonest, all right. I assume.

Do you truly want to know why EVERYONE who is critical of Larry and JW think that way?

Maybe not EVERYONE, just most of the people here who are now critical of him all of a sudden. You, for example. And, you already answered me, like you said, so I've got no more big questions for you, really. Ok?

Then you will have to each and everyone of them Doc.

Understood. I've been responding to others on this thread too, in case you haven't noticed. It's just that you're the one who's been the best at getting back to me and conversing with me openly and so on. In fact: I appreciate that. (Really!)

I only need to justify my actions, and choices, to myself and my maker, certainly not to you.

Couldn't agree more.

So what have we learned here? That at least on this issue, I am being far more honest than you.

Ok, I'll take your word for it ;)

When Larry and JW do things that I approve of, I praise them, when they don't, I condemn them.

Sounds good and fair and reasonable. And what about when you post parodies of their entire operation which imply that everything they do is frivolous, which of these two categories would that fall into? Just wondering :)

136 posted on 10/09/2001 6:07:09 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Another response to the same post of mine? Must be my lucky day :)

Good Lord! You ARE Larry!

Yes, that's correct. I am Larry Klayman. (Sigh.)

You spin better and faster than a loose hubcap on the beltway, there was another half to that answer.

Which answer? You mean the half of post #106 which is all about how "a decent man got into the Oval Office" and "things are better"? Yeah, sorry about that, I didn't quote that or respond to it, because I had no real response to it.

I am not required to quote and respond to every single sentence that someone writes, am I?

Thanks for demonstrating my point so well.

Anytime, man. You're welcome. Anytime.

(And what your "point" was, exactly? Oh never mind... :)

137 posted on 10/09/2001 6:10:21 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I came home from work this past Friday only to find a one-hump camel parked in my car port. The saddle had the name "Osama" on it. Think Klayman will take the case?
138 posted on 10/09/2001 6:15:20 PM PDT by roughrider
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To: bjs1779
Okey-doke, okey-pokey :-)
139 posted on 10/09/2001 6:19:07 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Dr. Frank
You are not missing anything , Dr Frank, you are right. These tappers have convenient memories. Yesterday's hero in their minds has become today's goat. When no one could or would do anything else but talk, atleast JW tried to hold the Clintonistas accountable -- and that is often done by compelling a public official to answer in a deposition questions that he/she refuses to answer in a press conference. You are dealing here with rookies and scoffers who don't comprehend the role played by a public interest law firm in the political/legal process. The Clintonistas did and that is why they feared JW.
140 posted on 10/09/2001 6:29:49 PM PDT by Woodkirk
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