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To: cicero's_son

I have said that there is no communist conspiracy, that the transition from ex-communist to neo-capitalist was simple and logical and required no fundamental change in "religion," so to speak.

I admire your civil posts. But I will only agree to the above if we can agree that "ex-communism" and "neo-capitalism" are the same ideology and are both essentially totalitarian, that the nomenklatura embraced what they called capitalism, but what was actually even worse than communism: they OWNED the assets they merely managed in the past. The "losers" (anti-communists, freedom-lovers, Christians) under communism became the losers under "democratic capitalism." So, what has changed? What is the point of "we won the Cold War"? What is the basis for all this self-congratulation, when the people who we supposedly fought the Cold War for no longer love America because they are WORSE off now and the United States has been in bed with the former communists since Bush I in 1989 (earlier, actually)? Some liberaters we turned out to be.

70 posted on 10/08/2001 3:44:02 PM PDT by Zviadist
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To: Zviadist
Hmmm. I'm not enough of an economic theorist to know whether I can agree with you or not. I do not know who controls the assets or the "means of production" in the former Soviet empire.

Is neo-capitalism the same as corporatism? If so, I might not use the word totalitarian to describe it, but it is undoubtedly intolerant, anti-individualist, hyper-rationalist, materialist, and endemically hostile to Christianity (and all other religion). In that sense, its effects are very similar to Communism. Close enough?

76 posted on 10/08/2001 3:56:20 PM PDT by cicero's_son
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