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To: gjenkins

We represent the moral high ground,

Tell that to the Albanians, who saw the US support a communist coup in 1997. Tell it to the Serbs, who saw our "bombs for peace" up close and personal. Tell it to the Belarusians, who see the US demanding that an election be overturned in favor of a former communist Central Committee member. Tell it to the Croatians, who saw the US undermine a conservative, anti-communist party in favor of the current communist coalition government. And so on and so on. But go ahead, keep your fantasies and keep your ignorance. I am sure it is nice and comfy for you to believe this. Unfortunately the facts point to a different conclusion. But hey, why let the facts get in the way of your fantasy?

62 posted on 10/08/2001 3:34:35 PM PDT by Zviadist
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To: Zviadist
We support -> We are supposed to support ... or ... we should support ... or ... we used to support.

I believe we support the high ground more than others, but I do not believe for a second that we predominantly support the moral high ground.
68 posted on 10/08/2001 3:40:52 PM PDT by gjenkins
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To: Zviadist
Futher clarification: I said we 'represent'. I stick by that. We have failed in that respect. Almost no one in the world (or even in our country) believes in individual rights or laissez fair capitalism any longer. Our betrayal of those concepts damages them more than any communist propganda could.

I largely agree with your points.
71 posted on 10/08/2001 3:46:43 PM PDT by gjenkins
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Zviadist,

I can't help but notice that many, if not all, of the policies and direct actions you refer to happened in the last 10 years or, to put a finer point on it, during the Clinton administration.

I have long suspected that a different crowd came to run our foreign policy in that time. It would have been easy to disrupt the chain of continuity with past American policy, with the arrival of the first Democratic administration in over a decade amid the chaotic aftermath of the Cold War.

We stopped pursuing principled policies and began turning our entire diplomatic, intelligence, and military apparatus into an economic vanguard whose purpose was to execute the will of the Davos crowd. Old distinctions--communist and anti-communist, for instance--were rendered less important than economic considerations.

Do you share this view, or do you think it goes deeper than the Clintonites?

72 posted on 10/08/2001 3:47:21 PM PDT by cicero's_son
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